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    Re: CERN -- what are your thoughts, impressions, and insights?

    Quote Originally Posted by DerFürst View Post
    Many conspiracies are true, but they usually involve playing complex mind-games with the public to make them draw false conclusions. They usually end up being too intricate and not sensationalistic enough to gain people's attention, but they are the ones people should be focused on most. What's more interesting: a conspiracy about rich bankers using legal loopholes to scam a government's treasury into perpetual debt to them, or a secret government plan to initiate doomsday by opening a wormhole for aliens from another dimension coming to conquer Earth?
    DerFürst, thanks for that. I've been puzzling over the abundance of conspiracy theories, mundane and bizarre and everything in between, for a long time. What you wrote there finally made click for me. This makes sense.

    Using wild stories to distract and befuddle and confound the public (which is why there are so many conspiracy theories that conflict or collide; more distraction) so while people are looking "over there at that thing" they are NOT looking where they shouldn't be. Misdirection is a trick as old as humanity. The media are experts at it, and so are multinational corporations and various other groups (including, in many cases, governments, or at least, some parts of some governments). Create fear of all kinds, in every sort of flavour, style, and fashion... It's like filling up a room with white noise and random language sounds to mask an actual conversation.
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    Re: CERN -- what are your thoughts, impressions, and insights?

    Did you watch the source video? Apparently, CERN dumped a massive amount of electrical energy into the earth at the very moment the earthquake happened. The video describes the amount of electricity as roughly equivalent to a quarter of what the entire planet pulls on average.

    As to your point about correlation not equalling causation, I've been looking around and another potential series of events is the reverse -- that the earthquake caused the energy dump. However, im not too sure on that. The waves from an earthquake in Nepal would certainly be delayed in reaching CERN, but I'm not sure if the same would be true for something happening at CERN 'reaching' Nepal. Am I off in thinking thats possible given the spooky behavior at a distance expressed by subatomic particles?

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    I'm not going to argue. No, I did not watch the video. I have never been one to subscribe to conspiracy theories. And even if it were 100% true (which I absolutely do not believe it is), what could I do about it? Nothing.
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    Re: CERN -- what are your thoughts, impressions, and insights?

    To me conspiracies theories are brainstorming activities.

    Rephrasing previous idea, imagine there are a science fiction writer in search of arguments for a new novel or a psicology researcher interested in "myth growth". The two cases (and may be others) are equally legitimal.

    The most successful was that related to "2012 mayan event."

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    Just the other day I saw a scientific article showing how much more energetic particles we get from space than we could ever get from CERN. If I find it I'll post it. CERN is nothing compared to the nearby stars who expel cosmic rays upon us.
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    Wow, interesting stuff!

    MooSaysTheCat...I love anime haha! I've watched most of the Studio Ghibli movies with my sons, and recently my eldest son invited me into some anime series which we watch together and have been good fun. I'll look into StainsGate with him.

    About 10 years ago I suddenly became aware of conspiracy theories. I dove in very deeply into the ocean of them. It certainly opened my eyes to many things I was previously unaware of, and has broadened my knowledge and interests considerably.

    However, after swallowing theories like a starving man at a pizza eating competition, I hit the brakes a bit. I came to a number of conclusions. I realised that there were so many hacks, hoaxers and shills (as DerFürst pointed out), that I couldn't waste my time. I'm more discerning (disCERNing? haha!) now. I still keep my ear to the ground and I'm a more aware person for it, and I find many of the theories very interesting.

    While I am concerned at many of the stories floating around out there, I realised I couldn't live my life in a state of fear. At the same time, being aware of possible goings on is one of the best ways of avoiding a state of ignorance, individually and collectively. Ah the internet...it's a double-edges sword eh?

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    Re: CERN -- nothing to worry about

    http://home.web.cern.ch/about/physic...es-outer-space
    I found the article, pretty sure this one was it.
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  8. Re: CERN -- nothing to worry about

    Quote Originally Posted by CFTraveler View Post
    http://home.web.cern.ch/about/physic...es-outer-space
    I found the article, pretty sure this one was it.
    Here is another article stating the creation of mini black holes and CERN's intention to make contact with a parallel universe and leak gravity into it. Sounds pretty surrealistic for me.

    Apparently next week they will push the accelerator to its limits!!

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    Re: CERN -- what are your thoughts, impressions, and insights?

    Cool.
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