Focus 10

**scienceofempty** · 29th March 2015, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by CFTraveler

From light to medium trance. Deep trance is prob. focus 12.

Thank you for clarifying.

When in Focus 10 and/or in Focus 12, is a mental state "clear of thought" a natural byproduct?

**CFTraveler** · 30th March 2015, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by scienceofempty

Thank you for clarifying.

When in Focus 10 and/or in Focus 12, is a mental state "clear of thought" a natural byproduct?

I think that this may be a personal thing, I can be in deep trance and still think, and even project and still think. I think there is a focus level where there is no time, (focus 15) but I bet there is still some thought- enough to realize 'where' you are.
I think 'no thought' is a discipline you master, I don't think it's 'natural' for a human in any level. But that's my opinion.

**scienceofempty** · 31st March 2015, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by CFTraveler

I think that this may be a personal thing, I can be in deep trance and still think, and even project and still think. I think there is a focus level where there is no time, (focus 15) but I bet there is still some thought- enough to realize 'where' you are.
I think 'no thought' is a discipline you master, I don't think it's 'natural' for a human in any level. But that's my opinion.

What, then, is the true purpose of the "no thought" state in relation to spiritual development and energy work?

**IA56** · 31st March 2015, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by scienceofempty

What, then, is the true purpose of the "no thought" state in relation to spiritual development and energy work?

My experience about "no thought" is to when you master it, you can truly know you do not Project out or no other energies can mirror you so to speak and you can observe the reality Clean so to speak, and every vision what arises from this state is a real vision.
It is a distinction between no thought and no time it is the awareness about both. When you know that then you also know where you are and what differences there are to the ranges between both realms and conditions so to speak.

To learn this you have to traine daytime to get your mind to become like a blank page....and also learn tactile/feeling how it feels when you become that blank page...and so on.....

It is not easy to put it in word´s I hope I do not make worse for you, and if it did not help, ignore what I wrote.

Love
ia