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    i have had positive experience with michael too. but he fell in nov 2009, in my experience... has been corrupted. i don't know if they can rise these angels i suppose that is the only doubt i have.
    no question about it, he was very cool but now ... it's nonsense. i have prayed for them to be healed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olyris View Post
    i have had positive experience with michael too. but he fell in nov 2009, in my experience... has been corrupted. i don't know if they can rise these angels i suppose that is the only doubt i have.
    no question about it, he was very cool but now ... it's nonsense. i have prayed for them to be healed.
    Hi olyris

    What happened in 2009??

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    i had prophetic visions... a quest, a decent reputation, technology and change to the world (australia and usa in particular)... the god voice wanted it. apparently michael did not. so michael fell.... the god voice actually announced it and i could feel it thick as wind blowing off a desert... tragic. the prophecy came true by the way... i have restored my life but strangely, the world is a more fearful place now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olyris View Post
    i had prophetic visions... a quest, a decent reputation, technology and change to the world (australia and usa in particular)... the god voice wanted it. apparently michael did not. so michael fell.... the god voice actually announced it and i could feel it thick as wind blowing off a desert... tragic. the prophecy came true by the way... i have restored my life but strangely, the world is a more fearful place now.
    Hi olyris,

    How did it look like when michael fell??..did you see it or was it the voice saying it?? ..

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    I am safe and I am free.
    I am powerfully protected.
    I am master of my body and ruler of my mind.
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    it was like a historic occasion, like the berlin wall or michael jackson's death. a "great" but unfortunate event.. i felt it , it felt very "objective," and the god voice declared it solemnly that on this day michael had fallen. he (michael) was acting strange. i saw a vision of him walking out on a stage like a cat walk (bravado) as if to say "screw this guy he's not as glorious as me." it was all hubris. then he appeared (before my psychic sight) the next day and looked kinda funny like he didn't know what life was anymore... trying to look and be loving but somehow fake like his soul was missing. then the prophecy began, big test of faith and the angels were no use at all. they are still, no use at all. does anyone know what it might take for angels to un-fall?. not that i am desperate to have that happen, but they are still hanging around...

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    Quote Originally Posted by olyris View Post
    it was like a historic occasion, like the berlin wall or michael jackson's death. a "great" but unfortunate event.. i felt it , it felt very "objective," and the god voice declared it solemnly that on this day michael had fallen. he (michael) was acting strange. i saw a vision of him walking out on a stage like a cat walk (bravado) as if to say "screw this guy he's not as glorious as me." it was all hubris. then he appeared (before my psychic sight) the next day and looked kinda funny like he didn't know what life was anymore... trying to look and be loving but somehow fake like his soul was missing. then the prophecy began, big test of faith and the angels were no use at all. they are still, no use at all. does anyone know what it might take for angels to un-fall?. not that i am desperate to have that happen, but they are still hanging around...
    Thank you olyris for your patience with me.
    I do not doubt your experience but I am a bit hesitant to believe it was archangele Michael who fell...it feels to me like my own experience...that I fell from grace and still was arrogant when starting this incarnation, because I had hybris....

    I believe you experienced one of your own pre-life occations...angels can not intervene...they can give information...but not intervene..they can protect to some extent......I have experience with ArcheAngele Michael and it felt like I was in a huge blue Cathedral...and Uriel is pink...when he surrounded me it felt like all turned to pink...and I tried to ask about this...I said...it felt like I had a pink glasses on me...Jesus I experienced like carmine-red with gold in it...green as Gabriel...he was around me in my childhood...I stopped seeing him when I was 7 yrs old...yellow I feel it to be sun or someone being like sun but I do not know if it is an angele.......silver I feel as an element ...water...and I am much part of it....

    Okay...do I have to fear now when I have said this...is there white coted people sent to my adress??

    I feel that I canīt come further if I do not be as truthful as possible, you have really helped me Olyris, thank you...

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    I am powerfully protected.
    I am master of my body and ruler of my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IA56 View Post
    I believe you experienced one of your own pre-life occations...angels can not intervene...they can give information...but not intervene..they can protect to some extent......
    yes there is an ancient karma that they do not comprehend. a belief in a manifest being the one creator of my own life, all of it... no others alive if necessary - you can actually just call them "agnisuryans" which means "unconscious magical others" like a man with his wife, basically possessing her in thought, word and deed, but the reaction/response of an agnisuryan other is intelligent so the whole thing works. some forms of feminism do that too, other way around. a cat can be a "familar" and same thing.

    thanks for your input i will think about it and see what can be done. my god is for me only? now i need to examine that bit.
    Last edited by olyris; 1st November 2017 at 11:48 AM. Reason: sounds very "jesusy" doesn't it

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    Quote Originally Posted by olyris View Post
    yes there is an ancient karma that they do not comprehend. a belief in a manifest being the one creator of my own life, all of it... no others alive if necessary - you can actually just call them "agnisuryans" which means "unconscious magical others" like a man with his wife, basically possessing her in thought, word and deed, but the reaction/response of an agnisuryan other is intelligent so the whole thing works. some forms of feminism do that too, other way around. a cat can be a "familar" and same thing.

    thanks for your input i will think about it and see what can be done. my god is for me only? now i need to examine that bit.
    Hi olyris,

    I hope you will share what you find out.

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    I am safe and I am free.
    I am powerfully protected.
    I am master of my body and ruler of my mind.
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    OK, well. being an alchemist the agnisuryan theory (gnostic/agnostic atheism, glory is one) works well. so yes (like jesus) i have basically defined my faith as alone, sparing such cases as death and the divine because they promise earth. i actually don't think humans really can or do, for me... i am very unique and balance self to other usually means i am the one doing the compassion. mind you, i don't understimate people, notably you and your story... which runs a close parallel to my own. i just... think earth is my last human experience and i will go on alone because that is the soul in me that recognises beauty best.

    i am working thru a connection that was unconsciously established with a person when i went out today. i hear his voice talking to me in the silence. we are probably sharing god. i just have to clear such instances of chance up. as you probably know, alchemy basically takes your problems (lead) away and leaves you with your self (gold). i keep my whole life "good" that way.

    regarding the angels. michael says he doesn't like me. now. that's not the karma of being one creator that's an ego thing... according to human insight. according to the angels it might be about whether or not it is arrogant to be one creator. so, a fundamental differing there. i would have been nice if the angels (michael) could refrain from that attitude... rather to be unconditionally loving, but i am quite certain it is not going to happen. they don't know how to comply with my unique set of beliefs. i could always try the old athiest trick of considering angels a part of my mind (not god per se)... will think about it.

    cheers for your support i have been feeling your presence u r very calm-ing. o

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    Quote Originally Posted by olyris View Post
    OK, well. being an alchemist the agnisuryan theory (gnostic/agnostic atheism, glory is one) works well. so yes (like jesus) i have basically defined my faith as alone, sparing such cases as death and the divine because they promise earth. i actually don't think humans really can or do, for me... i am very unique and balance self to other usually means i am the one doing the compassion. mind you, i don't understimate people, notably you and your story... which runs a close parallel to my own. i just... think earth is my last human experience and i will go on alone because that is the soul in me that recognises beauty best.

    i am working thru a connection that was unconsciously established with a person when i went out today. i hear his voice talking to me in the silence. we are probably sharing god. i just have to clear such instances of chance up. as you probably know, alchemy basically takes your problems (lead) away and leaves you with your self (gold). i keep my whole life "good" that way.

    regarding the angels. michael says he doesn't like me. now. that's not the karma of being one creator that's an ego thing... according to human insight. according to the angels it might be about whether or not it is arrogant to be one creator. so, a fundamental differing there. i would have been nice if the angels (michael) could refrain from that attitude... rather to be unconditionally loving, but i am quite certain it is not going to happen. they don't know how to comply with my unique set of beliefs. i could always try the old athiest trick of considering angels a part of my mind (not god per se)... will think about it.

    cheers for your support i have been feeling your presence u r very calm-ing. o
    Thank you olyris,

    and you have helped me to come out of my coma....and started up my grey cells

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    ia
    Core Affirmation: I am loved and I am worthy,
    I am safe and I am free.
    I am powerfully protected.
    I am master of my body and ruler of my mind.
    By Robert Bruce

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