Love- Started by Alex

[LittleBee]

oh, LOVE...
yes, TRUST is one of those aspects that can not fail (in any type of a relationship).
yes, RESPECT is fundamental too.
restaurants and parties? LOVE cannot be bought, it can only be mutually felt and SHARED.

i loved
from the very begining, it was like recognizing each other from a past life.
the bond was immediate as the eye contact happened. Almost instantly it came to a point of not needing to ask the partner, but just feel/know his needs and share them, it was a complete understanding, truly and always respecting as naturally as breathing is.

but FEAR and not taking the risks can kill and ruin such a beautiful feeling towards the concerned person. No matter how long LOVE existed, it is never eternal, it changes (transforms) according to circumstances. Gladly, when people recognize this and fight, it becomes almost a fairytale with a happy end

LIFE is made of choices and everything has a meaning and ways of hapenning. And sometimes sacrificing even LOVE for a greater cause (again could be love for a specific experience of greater aspects), also has it's meaning, unfortunately this is understood extremely late though.

Loosing faith in LOVE is like stopping to live.
LOVE is not only a feeling, it is actually a POWER SOURCE, we feed from it in so many different ways. WHILE IN LOVE we can write great music, books and poems, sing and dance, draw and mold. LOVE heals , truly heals and it is also true that when one love is lost it can be cured by another. Not that you didnt truly love in the previous relationship, but it is simply being perfected from experience to experience. It is not possible to say I loved one more than the other, NO, it is uncomparable and thus amazing to live it again!

Never fear being in love, if you fall, dont worry, you will get up again, as someone wrote here on the forum previously, we are all here to share our concerns, problems and fears and affections and respects for each other!
XXX

[Veles]

an interesting discussion going on here =)
although it is impossible to fall in love with everyone, it would definitely turn the world upside down. Disagreements, confrontation, hatred, war and unavoidable. It is sad, but true that there is much more of the negative emotions than positive ones around us.

Love is a greatest feeling one may ever experience(in my opinion) but only if this feeling is mutual. If it's not - this feeling may be extremely painful and distructive. It is also very unpredictable. After some time, love may vanish (and that happens quite often) and i know quite a few marriages where the only bond remaming between the 2 halfs is children. In other cases, love may overflourish turning into an obsession which usually ends up as a sad story.

I would also like to say that i believe everyone of us has their second half, it's just the matter of finding that half. Doesn't matter if you're disliked by the majority of people, doesn't matter if you have plenty of bad habbits, if you are a geek, if you are fat, if you are whatever - there is always someone special who will find you perfect. Someone who will want to spend the eternity with you. And you will experience the same feelings towards this person. It's the matter of finding this person who will make you whole. Not many of us do find them though.

But beware... as much as love may inspire and invigorate you, it may burn and hollow you out.

[Diane]

I thank my children for letting me experience unconditional love.
To me, love also involves giving the other freedom, not forcing them to be what you want them to be. And then letting go when the time comes, not holding onto someone for selfish reasons, no matter how painful it may be.

[LittleBee]

To me, love also involves giving the other freedom, not forcing them to be what you want them to be. And then letting go when the time comes, not holding onto someone for selfish reasons, no matter how painful it may be.

Definitely!

XXX

[LittleBee]

an interesting discussion going on here =)
although it is impossible to fall in love with everyone, it would definitely turn the world upside down. ...
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I would also like to say that i believe everyone of us has their second half, it's just the matter of finding that half. Doesn't matter if you're disliked by the majority of people, doesn't matter if you have plenty of bad habbits, if you are a geek, if you are fat, if you are whatever - there is always someone special who will find you perfect. Someone who will want to spend the eternity with you. And you will experience the same feelings towards this person. It's the matter of finding this person who will make you whole. Not many of us do find them though.

Finding that person is the most difficult.
I wish all of us to be able to find this second-half during this life and live it to the full keeping it and living it freely

XXX

[Veles]

Yeah, i missed an important aspect of love... Giving - is not just something you are expected to do, but it is also one of your personal needs. Imagine, if you were loved but personally didn't love anyone, how would that feel? not that great... We all want to love just as much as we want to be loved. Same with "giving" we want to give something to the person you love just as much or even more than you want to be given.

And then letting go when the time comes, not holding onto someone for selfish reasons, no matter how painful it may be.

Of cause it would be painful to let go, but when you really love someone, you want them to be happy in their lives, with or without you.

LittleBee, thank you! i wish you and i wish you all the same.
Imagine if we all found our halfs? this world would be a brighter place...

[Tempestinateapot]

Alex said:

Think about how powerful this could be if we 'fall in love' with everyone. Not just one person, not just as a couple and our kids, but everyone on earth.

I think it would be great.

This is the goal. The way out of incarnating and moving forward to the next level of existence.

I have a friend who has been following a spiritual teacher and receiving Deeksha. "Deeksha is a transfer of divine energy designed to bring about the state of Oneness." She is married and has children. Having experienced Oneness states, I gave her a warning. It's a beautiful thing. But, the flipside is that you need to be ready. To understand fully what that means. The state of Oneness is a state of loving everything equally. There is nothing in the human experience that can compare to it. And, that's where the problem lies.

When you love everything equally, it means that your lover, your child, your husband, your mother, anyone who is important in your life will be loved equally and with as much impact as you love a rock. The rock takes on an importance that is so grand and awe inspiring that it's hard to believe. For those who are seeking to live in the Now and experience Oneness on an ongoing basis, know what you are asking of yourself. If you are ready to let go of all human ties, loving all to the same degree, it can be a glorious thing. It also can bring about cutting ties to your family. When they realize that you love a stranger as much as you love them, it can hurt their egos and change relationships. I think this is what Jesus was talking about when he said that to follow him you had to hate your family.

For me, personally, forays into that Oneness are best left to occasional transcendental meditations. My family is still too important to me. I'm working towards loving everyone and living in Oneness. But, I've delayed givng myself completely over to the experience until my next experience after this lifetime. For now, I'm still into experiencing the human side of life...the good and the bad.

[Beekeeper]

So much of what we call "loving" is simply learnt behaviours through the thousands of stories modelled and presented to us in conversations and media and literature. Thus, many of us can't transcend romantic notions of what love between a couple should be. This is a problem when the experience doesn't measure up to the ideal. We also tend to feel that the expression of love between couples adheres to a universal pattern. Therefore, we dismiss love that we perceive as not fitting our ideals. Sometimes, too, we constrict others by trying to impose a pattern rather than opening ourselves to the experience as it is.

Now I've typed this, it occurs to me that it's true for other types of love too.

As for the "everyone has another half" idea, I think that that's just a romantic notion too. There are many potential lovers for any person, the other half is just the one you're with. If there's a specific soul mate, someone who will "find you perfect", I don't see why that person is necessarily the one you spend your life with. In fact, I believe that part of our spiritual evolution is to be around people who don't find us perfect (at least beyond initial infatuation ). Certainly, too, it's possible we choose to incarnate into some lives to experience living in celibacy.

[Veles]

Beekeeper, and just like that you killed it...
I was simply trying to inspire those of us here who have not yet found their second halfs..!

And you were saying "spiritual evolution is to be around people who don't find us perfect" - erm... agree in a way, but it sounds better then it actually works. We all are surrounded by people who don't find us perfect\ideal, but usually, you get a couple out of those people who fancy each other more then the rest, those closer to perfection.

*walks away mumbling: romantic notion - yeah, right.. to be around people who don't find us perfect - yeah, right... blah blah blah... *

[Beekeeper]

I'm mean aren't I Veles? But you know, I prefer it when a lover is over the finding me perfect stage. That's just too much to live up to. If they know my faults (which is a subjective kind of thing if you think about it) and still love me, if I know theirs and still love them, then it's all good. And if there's a bit of unpleasantness because of that, then we've gotta grow up.

I wasn't trying to discourage anyone, truly. I think the thought that there's more than one possible person for you out there is a very heartening idea.

*Walks away mumbling... perfect other halves, yeah wait til the first time they fart in bed, steal the covers, blunt your razor, embarrass you in front of your friends...blah, blah, blah*