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  1. #1

    Re: Strange dreams

    Yesterday evening I was reading lots of materials on the virus situation, governments controls etc.

    In this context, the dreams seem quite relevant.

    In the first one, I saw a 60 year old doctor, very authoritative in a "I-am-always-right-this-is-me-who-is-doctor-do-not-even-dare-to-question-me" way, prescribing to a patient medicament which I was seriously doubtful about. As soon as my doubts and anxiety about it were confirmed, I got very angry: not just at him, but also at myself that I didn't react before to save the patient from the doubtful medicament.

    In the second one, there was upcoming a match between my team (in which I was most offensive forward player), and the incoming team - from Washington (note the capital, i.e. city of the government). The Washington team appeared to be more determined bandits than actual players, using every advantage they had, regardless whether the play is fair or not, even choking one of our players. The game seemed to be very tough with such a dogged dirty playing team.

    Be objective, research the reality and don't assume things just because of experts


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    There were few guys, including me, who were supposed to start some strange card game. Every player was given dozen of cards. The cards were big, they represented archetypical characters, places or abstract things, all with black background, all had title at the top of it, all with a picture. They looked a bit like this one:



    I didn't quite like one guy, and vice versa, and no doubt we both hoped that the other would get weaker cards. Mine were good, though.

    There was a supervisor to this game whose role was to decide and supervise how the game went. These were his judgements which decided whether a player got points or not.

    I was to start first round, so I viewed the cards I held in my hand. One that particularly took attention was called "Defiant sorcerer".

    Every player had several minutes in his turn to use as many cards as possible, and was choosing cards from his hand and then "explaining" that card to the supervisor - in compliance with some complex rules.

    The game was difficult, and the better card a player had the more effort was needed to gain points for it, therefore one could not win without some strategy and honest understanding and assessing ones possibilities. So I decided to start with the two easiest ones, called: "Mail by air" and "Mail by email". When playing these cards, I told the supervisor that "Email by air" is costy, and hence its disadvantage, while the other is free, so its advantage (I decided not to tell that it brings, on the other hand, lots of spamming possibilities). In this way I earned few points.

    Then the choice was more difficult: i was viewing the cards that left in my hand, wondering which one to choose next...

    Be objective, research the reality and don't assume things just because of experts


  3. #3

    Re: Strange dreams

    Quote Originally Posted by Antares View Post
    The true, objective research is needed - and I don't know a person who really did it. Do you?
    If you want to do a research, this guide can help you:Puffins-DILD-Guide
    You are right, everything is about the memory, your bed can be in the middle of Mars rock valley and still thinking you are at home. So if you do the SAT from the guide every day, also known as ADA (all day awareness) and take 25mg B6 after the last meal or before bed, you will have a high chances to recognize your false(dream) memory and who knows you can even get lucid in this dream.

    P.s. if you want to explore beyond the dreaming I also have other tools.

  4. #4

    Re: Strange dreams

    Quote Originally Posted by Sh@dow View Post
    If you want to do a research, this guide can help you:Puffins-DILD-Guide

    Thanks for sharing. I'll take a look on this in free time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sh@dow View Post
    P.s. if you want to explore beyond the dreaming I also have other tools.
    What kind of tools?

    Be objective, research the reality and don't assume things just because of experts


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    Over dozen false awakening during a power nap, leading to a spiral of madness. First person narrative, an entry from my dairy.
    I'm starting my usual power nap, but my eye is getting itchy, I scratch it, but it is uncomfortable, so I stand up and look myself in the mirror, my eye is red and swollen, an allergic reaction but why, I cannot breath and I'm calling my wife, she is here and she have the shot, but why her arms are very long, honey what is happening, you are scarring me, "eVeryThing is fiNe dEar", she is suffocating me with her snake like arms,"yOu wiLl be fine dEar". This is not real, I must wake up.... I am in my bed again, ahh what a dream, honey those FA's are damn scary, do you hear me honey, she standing in the middle of the room, what is wrong honey - I touch her shoulder, she turn and her eyes are black, I feel a sharp pain, she is holding a knife, blood is dripping from it. Why honey, why do you stab me, "tO maKe yOu betTer DeaR", she continues to stab me, five six seven, pain too much pain, this is not real, must wake up. I'm in my bed again, ♥♥♥♥ hate chain of FA's, I jump from bed, but there is not a floor, I'm falling and falling and hit the bottom ohhh sharp pain, I'm in my bed again, I must end this chain so I make a RC's, it seems I'm awake and everything is normal, I am going to wash my face, but my reflection look distorted, my reflection reach its hands and start suffocating me, I can't breathe, so painful, he is too strong, I die.... wake up on a bench outside at the bus station, maybe I fall asleep without noticing, a car pass in front of me, then behind me, what is happening here, I'm seeing the next car, it doesn't have a rear end, only two fronts, this is not real, I'm dreaming surely....a sharp pain, I'm on the ground, a car run over me, wait stop I yelled, but another car hit me, I wake up in my bed, my wife was over me, "dEar, aRe yOu wAnt thiS to End", I shake my head, "TheN pleAse DiE", she started to strangle me. I wake up in my bed again, only to see a giant spider on top of me, he bite me to dead. I wake up in my bed again while screaming 'stop already', a little girl was sitting on my bed "bUt wE are juSt bEginNing to haVe fUn", while drawing a chainsaw from thin air.......aaaAaaaAa...I wake up for real.

    Damn, sh!t totally hit the fan!

  6. #6

    Re: Strange dreams

    I've checked the webpage you indicated, and I cannot see nothing but a simple tutorial for lucid dreaming. When I was speaking of research, I meant a real research, not just experience. I have a lot of them. Which of course are a good material to gain some objective recognition. However, an objective research is not an experience itself, these are two different things. I hope you understand that. One need to be seperated from the other.

    Be objective, research the reality and don't assume things just because of experts


  7. #7

    Re: Strange dreams

    I don't think you gonna find any objective research in this Field, you just need to have some faith. Btw you seem to have some very confusing beliefs regarding lucid dreaming vs AP/OBE. For me the only real difference between them is the density of your surroundings and the level your awareness. I also have a lot of experiences(~1000), but only when you experience 2+ hours types of events, only then you are starting to see how deep the rabbit hole really is. So this "simple" tutorial I gave you, actually can give you those 2+ hours experience. When I have more free time I can give you one of mine more advanced exercise, but it can come with unpredictable consequences.

  8. #8

    Re: Strange dreams

    I think there is some misconfusion about what the research provides. To make things clear, the research is not the experience itself. You can have a lot of experiences - this is the material for the research. If one has beliefs, as you mentioned, then it's not research, it's a belief. The research is exactly the opposite thing to a belief. Material (experiences) is the building block for the research, but is not the research itself. Anyway, thanks for sharing. I realize that there is no much research (but in fact there were attempts) in this field - actually I stated exactly the same thing just few posts earlier.

    What I can see about people in LD, OBE etc., they are "experience-oriented geeks". 99+% of them are. Of course it's nothing bad, and it's clearly understood why. To be honest, people who have experiences like these frequently think of themselves as sort of an elite of the humanity. The experiences like that for most tend to be exciting, are unfolding the unkown etc. Just like for people from the 60s taking LSD, shamans and shaman adepts and alike.

    However, most of these experiences are just experiences and projections. The thing is, these people stop on that. Their idea about what they experience is based on their beliefs (assumptions).

    I also have a lot of experiences(~1000), but only when you experience 2+ hours types of events, only then you are starting to see how deep the rabbit hole really is.
    Anyway, out of curiosity, do you have any clues about the structure of the reality from the experiences you had? Would you mind sharing your conclusions? Or you just stop on just experiencing? I'd like to take this opportunity to have an interesting discussion of things most people are unaware of, or simply ignore. Even if they are using ASCs for variety of experiences.

    Within the span of the experiences you had, did you have any significant experiences, any breakthroughs in understanding of reality? I'm curious what are your conclusions about them.

    BTW I don't think the longer timespan of the experience gives better insights than shorter ones. I had short and very long experiences, and both of these were very inightful and made a great material for the research (not all experiences give a lot of new information).

    Edit: one more thing, Shadow: recently I am interested in the other entities existing in the universe - did you have any encounters or even interaction with some entities? What do you think of them?
    Last edited by Antares; 17th October 2023 at 06:24 PM.

    Be objective, research the reality and don't assume things just because of experts


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