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  1. #91

    Re: Total rejuvenation - eternal youth state

    Quote Originally Posted by olyris View Post
    Anything that technology can do, nature can do better - magic. The tech frequency (Hu) is fear, which is sincere, ok? Natural or real magic, on the other hand, has everything.
    I do think so, as well.

    This is not something surprising: technology may only rely on something - and the 'something' needs to be controlled directly by the yin element. When energy becomes too much yang, as highly vibrating small particles do, it becomes difficult to control through yin. There's this limitation that physicists face now and are unable to create quantum computers.

    Yin is fear. Yang is desire.

    Magic or mysticism, in a wide sense, requires both, yin and yang (which means everything - there is no other thing in the universe but yin and yang) - but relies on none.

    Through desire, you attract into self (this is how magic works), while through fear you keep away what you want to avoid (this is the fear hidden in technological use motivation). Sounds abstract, but I believe this is how things are in the end. For instance, why one does need marketing data to be processed through technology? IMHO, in the end (s)he fears that not controlling (yin) all the data (on competition, on customers, on sales...) may bring her/him out of the market. Compare it to the law of attraction (yang), where you put your focus on belief that you would get the final result (stay on the market, not just for survival, but for thrive).
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  2. #92

    Re: Total rejuvenation - eternal youth state

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    The yin/yang is perfectly capable of conceiving of sex, but it will it do to itself what is called Moksha? I think it takes a strong universe... inside self.
    Last edited by olyris; 16th July 2020 at 12:11 PM.

  3. #93

    Re: Total rejuvenation - eternal youth state

    The vegatative forces

    When increasing consciousness, I became strongly aware of the life forces within the whole organism. By the latter I do not mean just physical body, but all the energy forces (qi or prana) supporting it, as well as my "energy self" - independent from the physical body.

    What I can say from my observations, is that people totally do not know / understand what they are dealing with when (incarnated) in the body. To them, it seems to be an automatic system: something somehow works, and he or she can just use her or his will to manipulate this body (through the electric impulses of the nervous system - but who cares? ).

    It is automatic. And it is largely guided by the cells of the DNA, and... well, this might be hard to believe in the context of the current belief system, but the organism reacts strongly to the thoughts (emotions, energy etc.).

    The problem is lack of integration between the energy self and the body self.

    Body in its nature, from what I observed, is very vegetative, very passive yin force. It does not do much just by itself, it just is, just like a plant. Take for example a tree - a fantastic biological "machine" system: it is so well designed that it can potentially live for centuries or even thousands of years. Really a great system, but in the end it is just a vegetative consciousness.

    Human is different. Chinese cosmological system placed humanity between the Earth (yin, vegetative forces), and Heaven (yang, pure conscious forces). Most of people spend their lives within their minds - the mental selves, egos. They are not aware of the other forces involved in their beings. This is due to the common ignorance.

    Human does not have such a perfect system; his or her DNA, additionally, must have had been modified. DNA resides in cell - being the part of the vegetative system and forces behind it. To get a proper result with the physical body, also proper energy and consciousness is required - and this means influencing the vegetative forces by your mind. Your awareness is your guide.

    I can sense strongly my energy self within/outside the body, and the difference between it and the vegetative forces (physical body). They do not integrate quite well.

    I believe there could have had been times when people lived for thousands of years in the very ancient times. In fact, there are chronicles stating it. Today, it is different. The conscious work is needed - a certain level of awareness and energy work for getting be friends with your body.

    What most people do, however, is totally ignore the vegetative forces. In such a case, the body has no choice but to fade - and fade means dying. Your energy self leaves unaware, looking for another "shell" (incarnation), in order to repeat the same again, and again, and again, never having a clue what the vegetative forces actually are. People do not believe they can manage energies and it is not difficult to do so. This involves vegetative forces - the physical body. You can also modify DNA consciously, not just unconsciously. I know that Edgar Cayce stated similar, not in the same words as I do, but he explained well how the whole human organism works.
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  4. #94

    Re: Total rejuvenation - eternal youth state

    It takes the mind to rejuvenate. The body is the result, not the cause.

    I think that Bruce Lipton is right: these are we who change DNA - but thoughts require energy, and energy requires light, so that ether could combine with the physical DNA.
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  5. #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFTraveler View Post
    If all people were all of a sudden to last forever, it's not a world I would want to live in.
    So it seems that your worries won't ever fulfill... I think that I've just found out why tonight.

    First... let me give you a wider context. It has a lot to do with the current stage of the whole civilization.

    I cannot be sure for 100%, but there is a big chance that humanity on the Earth is destined to extinct soon. The beings from whom I by a coincidence retrieved the information (they did not tell me that, but I figured it out by our talk) seem to be very not happy about the direction of the civilization - as a whole and as a majority of individuals. Choosing between the devastated Earth and destroyed civilization, they prefer the latter, and we are going to repeat the Atlantis scenario soon - probably. The experiment is considered to be a failure.

    Now, to the rejuvenation. People won't be given this information, they think humanity do not *deserve* that, they know the formula but keep it a secret. People are going to die. Even prolongating lives probably won't be the case.
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  6. #96

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    To be not wrongly understood: I don't mean that acheiving immortality is not possible. It is. There are chronicles and even handbooks translated to English which cover this topic (not entirely, but you can find them). Handbooks are certainly not enough. Your own sacrifice, interest and research is required, just like with OBE. You don't do OBE by reading a book; you actually don't need any books at all.

    However, what I meant, is that it won't be publically available, and certain level of frequency is probably required to achieve in order to transform cells in your body. If you achieve this, and if you gain certain level of psychic skills (which BTW in some ways Robert Bruce covers), nothing is impossible.

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  7. #97

    Re: Total rejuvenation - eternal youth state

    Quote Originally Posted by Antares View Post
    To be not wrongly understood: I don't mean that acheiving immortality is not possible. It is. There are chronicles and even handbooks translated to English which cover this topic (not entirely, but you can find them). Handbooks are certainly not enough. Your own sacrifice, interest and research is required, just like with OBE. You don't do OBE by reading a book; you actually don't need any books at all.

    However, what I meant, is that it won't be publically available, and certain level of frequency is probably required to achieve in order to transform cells in your body. If you achieve this, and if you gain certain level of psychic skills (which BTW in some ways Robert Bruce covers), nothing is impossible.

    I am reminded in carlos castanedas book the concept of the death defyier. And in Robert Monroe’s books the being he called heshe, a androgynous human who has lived for thousands of years, and coincidently the most advanced living human at the time of Monroe’s writing.

    https://absolutoracle.com/Carlosorac...lInAmerica.htm

    One of the things robert Monroe noticed from heshe, was the energy the being gave off. It was a mix of feminine and masculine. Coincidently the being was androgouse.

    It could be that in order for humans to extend their lives without technology, there may need to be a energetic rebalancing. The masculine and feminine energies probably must come into complete balance. And this transforms the individual into androgonyse person displaying both feminine and masculine characteristics physically. Probably because of the energetic changes causing hormonal changes to the body, that might facilitate extended life.

    If heshe was a real individual in Robert Monroe’s work, I could definitely see the importance in a undertaking like that. Probably so that the knowledge of whatever school of mysticism keeps retaining its original teachings well into the far future. Or maybe so that these individuals can guide humanity to survivor the trials of civilization.

  8. #98

    Re: Total rejuvenation - eternal youth state

    Thanks for sharing.

    Quote Originally Posted by atsguy View Post
    It was a mix of feminine and masculine. Coincidently the being was androgouse.
    This is not a surprise to me. I learnt about the subject enough to know it all goes down to energies. If to indicate written sources, the biggest revelation came from the ancient Chinese and Egyptian texts, which they called "sacred". I'm almost 100% certain the knowledge inherent there in most is older than those civilizations and come from the Atlantean temples.

    In brief, the whole universe (macrocosm) works because of yang and yin energies (more - most - universal versions of what people call "masculine" and "feminine"). Human being (microcosm) works because of them as well.

    Soul, the astral body, works because of them as well. And everything else.

    Yang and Yin combine together in order to produce any result: when it's more yang, it's very subtle, and when it's more yin, it's manifestation. Both combined are presented as Qi (as universal energy), and both are required. Otherwise, I believe, you would shift to one of the polars (Yang if too 'unmanifested', and Yin if too gross), and simply cease to exist (at any level). You would leave the universe then: astral, mental, spiritual, physical - any! It's not possible to be purely yang or purely yin and exist within this universe!

    As stated by Lao-Tzy, the number of combinations between Yin and Yang (different variants of Qi energy) are 10.000 in number, which means infinite. You have infinite ways of choosing your path to immortality, but all of them will require some combination of both opposite energies (balanced).

    Balance between Yin and Yang, or Water and Fire, or as you stated, feminine and masculine, is essential.

    But what does it mean in practice?

    The problem is, human being does not use his/her fullest potential. It is clearly stated in the old Chinese taoist books: basically, a typical human is a yin type (earth energy, as opposed to heaven energy). However, you can shape your physical body, if you know how to do this. I believe it requires working with your body directly, and controlling the hormons which it produces. Being androgynous is just one of multiple variants, but yes, I've read about it in some modern taoist book.

    Quote Originally Posted by atsguy View Post
    It could be that in order for humans to extend their lives without technology
    I think it is not possible at all with bare technology to achieve it. Technology has no life - spirit has. You also cannot control spirit with any technology, but spirit is "so time-less" that it typically works with you, whatever motivations you have, so basically it allows you to experiment with life energy.
    In fact, in the end everything is energy - which comes from so-called spirit. To me, it's a matter of a proper connection (techniques that allow you to go beyond), rather than using purely scientific solutions (technology that keeps you within your current boundaries). It's a matter of being conscious of beyond: your mind has no limits - other than those you choose, also unconsciously. Remove "un"-conscious, and you naturally become conscious.

    As you suggested, without proper energies life is not possible; you may modify life through genetic engineering, but that' all. And this is what, I believe, was happening for the recent thousands of years on the Earth: changing the DNA of species, including human beings. Playing with life energy.

    But life energy requires being conscious of it in order to keep it as you want: on any level. If not, you are going to die also astrally, for instance.

    Quote Originally Posted by atsguy View Post
    there may need to be a energetic rebalancing.
    Yes...

    Quote Originally Posted by atsguy View Post
    And this transforms the individual into androgonyse person displaying both feminine and masculine characteristics physically. Probably because of the energetic changes causing hormonal changes to the body, that might facilitate extended life.
    ...yet, this is just how people understand energies. To me it seems much more universal, and you can really do more than just that. This means you may have also control over how your body shapes, when you master those energies: yin and yang.

    Quote Originally Posted by atsguy View Post
    Probably so that the knowledge of whatever school of mysticism keeps retaining its original teachings well into the far future. Or maybe so that these individuals can guide humanity to survivor the trials of civilization.
    Probably, Atlanteans did this. Scriptures from Egypt, Mesopotamia, and some other ancient civilizations state so. They know what they are doing keeping it secret. For a diligent researcher, however, nothing is impossible.

    To me, the equation which you indicated (female + masculine) seems flat. People are taught to think in the linear way. Try to think of equations not as lines, but as geometrical, multidimensional, complex objects, involving more than just few elements in one line. Particularly, think of the triangle. Combine these two, universal Water and universal Fire elements in one line combined with the Spirit vertex at the top, thus creating a triangle.

    This is the essential, but missing part. Spirit is invisible, thus so easily overlooked and not taken into equation by modern science, nor people's thinking. There lay the "secret" to conscious life.

    Note that "conscious" is the key. Because the energies from your physical (astral, mental...) body, for instance, will survive, in some form, anyway - but without your conscious control or connection with / to them... then, you will become NOT conscious of them anymore after your death... People believe that immortality is impossible; but this would mean that being eternally conscious is impossible.

    Impossible, however, is the opposite: to become totally not conscious. Consciousness (what people call "mental") comes from the yang, calmness (what people call "matter") comes from the yin. All of that is Qi spectrum - and electromagnetic spectrum exists within the universal Qi spectrum. You may shift between the levels of this spectrum, even within one sub-level, like astral level. You do this by changing your frequencies (no surprise).

    So, in the end, it - life - is a play with life energies (spirit).

    To know spirit (life), energies - you need to go beyond logical, rational thinking, go beyond any technology-oriented thinking. As some masters said:

    Unlearn what you learnt
    Which means going backward within your mental part of mind, going beyond (dissolving) what you "absorbed" during your current life. Try first to go back to the time when you were an infant. This is one way indicated by many taoists, for instance, or... by Jesus. Try to sense what you felt then, re-gain this fresh, un-disturbed perspective, not stirred with your rational thinking yet. There leads the way to the "mystery of life", as Lao-Tzy called it so.

    Then, try to go beyond your current incarnation. All of those memories you have within, and consciousness (playing with your mind) is what makes them conscious for yourself.

    Robert Bruce indicated so many times how important is memory. However, I'd say, memory is just consciousness.
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