Consciousness pulled out - what to do?

[new baby]

Sunday in the afternoon I listened to Hemisync - Exploration, sleep. Late at night at aroound two o'clock I know I was dreaming but somehow aware and I was shown out how the consciousness is rising. The demonstration was made on a girl dressed in pink and I could see the bodies detaching (I suppose there were five of them). Being semiaware I felt how my consciousness or me (not my body) was pulled out but not knowing what to expect and what to do I resisted and woke up. Question is what to do next time when it is happening? Go with the flow? and what will happen if I let go.

Then I felt movements of "energy" in my body. It was like it was wandering in legs, in the torso, allmost everywhere and in the same time I felt a little sick in my stomach. It seemed like a small serpent. Was it Kundalini? I didn't try to awaken it. What to do about it?

I was on day 11 of the MAP. Is it the MAP or the hemysinc or both of them combined?

Things are happening to me around two in the night. Is it the best time of the day for things to happen?

[CFTraveler]

Are you doing Robert's workshop in which he combines hemisync with NEW, or on your own?

[new baby]

Hi!

I have no ideea that Robert is combining NEW with Hemisync, but the way you are asking it seems that I am doing something wrong.

I have started hemisync about two month ago. I am doing it slowly, only two or three times a week, depends on the time I have, in the afternoon. I listen to one track five or six times or more, depends, until I feel let's say confortable with it. I am only at Wave 1 - Exploration, sleep and listened to it just once on Sunday and didn't do the MAP on Saturday and Sunday.

I also found on a forum about OBE the MAP. The guys were talking about how great it is and what a wonderful gift a guy has made to everybody. So I've said to myself let's give it a try to see what about are they talking. So that's how I started the MAP also. I am doing it for about a month, only in the morning and I am now only at the full body bouncing. So that's how I ended doing both of them in the same time.

I am taking slowly everything because I do not want to jump in big steps, I have a lot of fears to be eliminated and I think I do not want to project yet untill I learn more.

I am my own teacher because there is no one around to talk about this things even as a principle, I don't know any yoga teachers in the city and there are no ashrams. I have no support from my husband in this kind of things, he already thinks that I am doing freaky things that I shouldn't do. I am 38 years old and I do not jump into dangerous things just to see how it is. So I am reading whatever I find and I think would be beneficial and as told in my other post I just want to progress spiritually (do not want any powers to do things with them).

So if I am doing something wrong, please tell me and I will stop.

Do you have any ideea what is it happening because last night I woke up went to the bathroom, everything was OK and when I returned I started to feel sick again and some light falling sensations and feeling a litlle bit strange.

[Korpo]

I have no ideea that Robert is combining NEW with Hemisync, but the way you are asking it seems that I am doing something wrong.

new baby, I think that is not CF's intention, she just wanted to know what exactly you are doing. People need to know a lot about the condition you're in before they can assess what's happening sometimes. This includes some questions to exclude things or get more detail.

Be well,
Oliver

[Korpo]

new baby, having read further I might make some suggestions.

A good starting point might be, though at first it might seem irrelevant or of little importance, to sit down and write down the reasons for trying this projection endeavour. Then try to get them in order of personal importance. And then to reflect about this. And then decide on a course of action.

Our intentions and goals play a big role in anything we try to accomplish, and to me it has become more and more apparent that energy work helps manifest what we intend, but not always on the optimal route.

People going for psychic powers might get at them quicker than people trying to project or people trying to engage in self-development. People concerned with self-development may have a slower but smoother ride into the metaphysical, like I believe I have. Sometimes things don't manifest because we ask for the wrong things, or for things in an order they are harder to achieve, harder to tackle, or harder to live with. For example psychic powers might seem nifty at first, but if you start to feel another person's emotions within yourself the fun might quickly vanish from it.

This is not to scare you. I see you said fears. Usually the fears we bring with us are a big problem. Reviewing your intentions might help in finding what you really want to accomplish and why, and ease finding a way to go there. I started out with wanting to project and now am very focused on stress resolution and emotional development. The side effect is that many metaphysical things have started to manifest in my life, but they are no longer scary. I feel I get them at a rate I can cope with now.

Take good care,
Oliver

[new baby]

Thanks Oliver for your reply, I really appreciat it.
I will consider what you said and wil try to put an order in my goals (I already have an ideea of what I want but will try make it more specific).
I already have tons of questions I don't know the answers and have no ideea how I will find them.
I would like to make an invitation (hope I am not too daring): if there is anyone on this forum that has experience in self development and would like to talk about this things with me on yahoo messenger (lbotezatu@yahoo.com) I would very much appreciate this.

All the best wishes,

Lia

[Korpo]

Hello, new baby.

I think that normally your Hemisync usage should be no problem. I cannot speak for your special case, as we are all different, but for me it was no problem.

It depends a bit what your descriptions actually mean. For example "pulled". When I donned the headphones for the first time to listen to the Focus 10 track I felt an upward "pull" as soon as the Focus 10 signal started. It was quite unexpected and scary. I simply did not know *what* to expect, really. But the pull was not very hard, or in hindsight scary. It was an upward lifting motion on me within me.

After experimenting with Hemisync it could happen that effects that not manifested during the session would spontaneously happen during the night. I had listened to a Focus 12 session, and not that much happened, but at night I had what I believe was an inner projection, astral noise (mumbling and laughter) and so on.

Your description sounds like an energy rush, but I cannot say if it was Kundalini. Perhaps you can add more detail about how the energy felt, how it moved, and so on?

Was any of this uncomfortable? Additional detail usually helps in identifying things.

You can add your messenger data in the user profile to ease access by members.

Take good care,
Oliver

[new baby]

Hi again,

When using the Hemisync didn't happen too much. I felt a little floating sensation but I couldn't roll or flow like a log like instructed. But in the night following the day when I listened it happened. I felt that I was pulled upwards or out strongly(I may say with force) and it took me somehow by surprise. I fought it because I didn't know what would happen and what to expect. It wasn't scary at all.
But I have one problem I am scared of having an OBE in the dark because I do not know what to expect and I would feel more confortable in the daylight. I had some trauma in the adolescence for a long time and I am somwehow afraid of spirits. I have to go over it but have no ideea how.

The energy movements were not scary at all but I can not compare them with the way I feel the energy when doing the MAP exercises. In MAP I am controlling the energy and direct it. The one in the night had a movement of its own it was wandering and had a movement in, let's say waves, as when you see a snake moving but it was not a long one. It was moving in the legs and in the upper body all over, not necessarily centered on the spine. I was not frightened at all of the energy, but started to feel sick in the stomach which lasted untill I felt asleep. It started to worry me after reading the posts and the answers in the Kundalini section.

I marked in the profile Show your e-mail address but I can not see it when opening the profile in the posts. Is there anything that should be don, and where?

Blessings,

Lia

[Korpo]

When using the Hemisync didn't happen too much. I felt a little floating sensation but I couldn't roll or flow like a log like instructed. But in the night following the day when I listened it happened. I felt that I was pulled upwards or out strongly(I may say with force) and it took me somehow by surprise. I fought it because I didn't know what would happen and what to expect. It wasn't scary at all.

When doing a session we often maintain a rather tight grip on ourselves. If we wake in the night, a different kind of trance happens - somewhere in the continuum between wake and sleep you achieve lucidity and this can be quite powerful.

My hypothesis is that the subconscious allows you "glimpses" before you achieve the skill to do this consciously.

But I have one problem I am scared of having an OBE in the dark because I do not know what to expect and I would feel more confortable in the daylight. I had some trauma in the adolescence for a long time and I am somwehow afraid of spirits. I have to go over it but have no ideea how.

I can understand very well - I am reluctant of projecting in the dark as well. With continued trance training, energy work and affirmations one usually can overcome obstacles to daylight projection and project when comfortable, it just takes time.

The energy movements were not scary at all but I can not compare them with the way I feel the energy when doing the MAP exercises. In MAP I am controlling the energy and direct it. The one in the night had a movement of its own it was wandering and had a movement in, let's say waves, as when you see a snake moving but it was not a long one. It was moving in the legs and in the upper body all over, not necessarily centered on the spine. I was not frightened at all of the energy, but started to feel sick in the stomach which lasted untill I felt asleep. It started to worry me after reading the posts and the answers in the Kundalini section.

Well, Kundalini coils up the spine in 3 1/2 turns. People are very specific on that. Everything else is another of the myriad energy body phenomena.

It is not really unusual to wake up at night, and feel energy moving in the body "on its own accord". You can awake and find yourself already in the pre-projection vibration state, or your body might be doing some repair and moves some energies. Most phenomena should be harmless and natural.

Energy is a natural phenomenon, and movement of energy as well, often in energy work we only clear up pathways, intensify a flow or speed up a flow. Especially at sleep the other parts of your consciousness might do their work to actually refresh and rebuild you for the next day, but that's just a guess.

I marked in the profile Show your e-mail address but I can not see it when opening the profile in the posts. Is there anything that should be don, and where?

When you mark this, when members click on "email" at the end of the post, they can actually send you an email, else not. If you were to click on my "email" button it would only say that I do not want to receive email (because I have not marked that checkbox).

If you enter your Yahoo! Messenger ID into the field in your profile, people should be able to find you by clicking on some new "yahoo" field below every post you make.

Take good care,
Oliver

[new baby]

Thanks for your explanantions and the paralels with what happened to you, It makes sense.
I won't be reluctant and afraid about the enrgy and leve it on its own.
About projecting and other things..........well I have a lot of work to do.


Blessings,

Lia