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    This is the result of a few hours brainstorming and very rough (basically my notes as I was surfing through wikipedia). I've left any comments that were meant just for me to remember something (and random thoughts as they came to me), I know it's a little scattered (pun, see below). I hope to put together a decent "Thesis Paper on Negs and Em fields" using all this info, eventually. For now I'll just do an information dump as it is as I want to have it somewhere other than my pc in case of crashes and some comments or thoughts would be great (am I seeing connections that aren't there etc? i.e. sanity check).

    I was on a roll this afternoon as almost every link I went to there was something that just seemed to FIT in place like watching a jigsaw put itself together. Please try to ignore all my ???????'s and !!!!!!!!'s as I was buzzing (like a BEE!) and can't be bothered editing them out.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_poisoning

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromag ... on_hazards

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrodynamics


    Questions:
    How do the following affect an EM field (say 5 microteslas) when introduced into the center of the field:

    1. A plastic hosepipe of fast running water.
    2. A plastic hosepipe of fast running saline solution.
    3. A pipe of flowing steam.
    4. A container of coarse sea salt or small crystals (any in particular?).
    5. A thick electric cable that has current running through it.

    What substances, if any, are known to interfere with EM fields?



    I was going to post the above questions on physics forums but I've just spent a few hours researching on wikipedia and have answered most of the questions below.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractive_index

    "The effect that n varies with frequency (except in vacuum, where all frequencies travel at the same speed, c) is known as dispersion, and it is what causes a prism to divide white light into its constituent spectral colors, explains rainbows, and is the cause of chromatic aberration in lenses. In regions of the spectrum where the material does not absorb, the real part of the refractive index tends to increase with frequency. Near absorption peaks, the curve of the refractive index is a complex form given by the Kramers-Kronig relations, and can decrease with frequency."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_coefficient

    "The extinction coefficient for a particular substance is a measure of how well it absorbs electromagnetic radiation (EM waves). If the EM wave can pass through very easily, the material has a low extinction coefficient. Conversely, if the radiation hardly penetrates the material, but rather quickly becomes "extinct" within it, the extinction coefficient is high."

    "A material can behave differently for different wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation. Glass is transparent to visible light, but many types of glass are opaque to ultra-violet wavelengths. In general, the extinction coefficient for any material is a function of the incident wavelength. The extinction coefficient is used widely in ultraviolet-visible spectroscopy."

    WHAT MATERIALS HAVE A HIGH 'extinction coefficient' then?
    (random comment: I heard somewhere that priests wear black as it is meant to be protective color against 'evil' (absorbs light/EM)?)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absorption_coefficient

    "The absorption coefficient is a property of a material. It defines the extent to which a material absorbs energy, for example that of sound waves or electromagnetic radiation. Wallace Sabine was a pioneer of this concept in acoustics and defined the unit of the Sabine. A Sabine is defined as a fraction of acoustic power absorbed by a 1m square of open window. In SI units, absorption coefficient is measured in inverse metres, and is represented by the Greek letter mu."


    Sound Absorption Coefficients for Some Common Materials - This website helps one understand the concept as well as provides formulai and some coefficients.
    http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/accou ... -d_68.html


    BINGO! : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scattering

    "Scattering is a general physical process whereby some forms of radiation, such as light or moving particles, for example, are forced to deviate from a straight trajectory by one or more localized non-uniformities in the medium through which it passes. It can also be seen with some sound phenomena. In conventional use, this also includes deviation of reflected radiation from the angle predicted by the law of reflection. Reflections that undergo scattering are often called diffuse reflections and unscattered reflections are called specular (mirror-like) reflections."

    "The types of non-uniformities that can cause scattering, sometimes known as scatterers or scattering centers, are too numerous to list, ****but a small sample includes particles, bubbles, droplets, density fluctuations in fluids, defects in crystalline solids, surface roughness, cells in organisms, and textile fibers in clothing.****** The effects of such features on the path of almost any type of propagating wave or moving particle can be described in the framework of scattering theory."

    "In physical descriptions of scattering, physicists commonly distinguish between two broad types, elastic and inelastic. Elastic scattering involves no (or very small) loss or gain of energy by the radiation. Inelastic scattering does involve some change in the energy of the radiation. These terms derive from the kinetic theory of the collision of solid bodies, which can often be used to model scattering processes."

    "If the radiation is substantially or completely extinguished [I WISH!] by the interaction (losing a significant proportion of its energy [YES PLEASE!]), the process is known as absorption. In some contexts, absorption is considered to be merely an extreme form of inelastic scattering. Generally speaking, in classical physics absorption and scattering tend to be treated as different phenomena, while in quantum physics absorption is treated as a form of scattering via the S-matrix. To be precise, absorption cannot occur without some degree of scattering, and scattering is rarely completely elastic, but on a macroscopic scale it is common for "absorption" and "scattering" to take place without any appreciable contribution from the other process, so treating them separately is often convenient."
    ************** MORE AT LINK.

    So, bubbles and droplets will cause SCATTERING of EM fields!! Is this why a shower helps?????????? NOTE the part about, crystalline solids and also density fluctuations in fluids(add salt??). Is this WHY Mega Salt baths with the coarse crystals are helping (I had a nice long one this afternoon and they definitely work!)? AND even the textile fibers as RB says wear bed socks to protect feet.... is this why they are protective????

    DEFECTS IN crystals????? So smoky quartz really is better at psychic protection than clear quartz then?????????? Find out which crystal has most defects LOL.

    TURKISH STEAM BATHS?????? I've also been getting minor results from aerosol sprays directly on attachment points, altho not much. Or how about a Disco smoke machine, doesnt hurt humans but does it affect negs?

    This is called Rayleigh Scattering (taken from last link) :

    "is a process in which electromagnetic radiation (including light) is scattered by a small spherical volume of variant refractive index, such as a particle, bubble, droplet, or even a density fluctuation. This effect was first modeled successfully by Lord Rayleigh, from whom it gets its name. In order for Rayleigh's model to apply, the sphere must be much smaller in diameter than the wavelength (?) of the scattered wave; typically the upper limit is taken to be about 1/10 the wavelength. In this size regime, the exact shape of the scattering center is usually not very significant and can often be treated as a sphere of equivalent volume. The inherent scattering that radiation undergoes passing through a pure gas is due to microscopic density fluctuations as the gas molecules move around, which are normally small enough in scale for Rayleigh's model to apply. This scattering mechanism is the primary cause of the blue color of the Earth's sky on a clear day, as the shorter blue wavelengths of sunlight passing overhead are more strongly scattered than the longer red wavelengths according to Rayleigh's famous 1/? 4 relation. Along with absorption, such scattering is a major cause of the attenuation of radiation by the atmosphere. The degree of scattering varies as a function of the ratio of the particle diameter to the wavelength of the radiation, along with many other factors including polarization, angle, and coherence."

    [This MIGHT explain partly why the SMOKE given off by burning SULPHER or CHILLI PEPPERS has an affect because the particles of the smoke are scattering the EM fields of the negs. It goes on to say : ]

    "Another special type of EM scattering is coherent backscattering. This is a relatively obscure phenomenon that occurs when coherent radiation (such as a laser beam) propagates through a medium which has a large number of scattering centers, so that the waves are scattered many times while traveling through it. A ***THICK CLOUD is a typical example of this sort of MULTIPLE-SCATTERING MEDIUM.*** The effect produces a very large peak in the scattering intensity in the direction from the which the wave travels—effectively, the light scatters preferentially back the way it came."

    [So this connects with this scattering effect affecting negs via :

    1. Smoke and fumes, as mentioned above.
    2. Fine spray from waterfalls (and showers)?
    3. Turkish steam baths I mentioned?


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave-particle_duality

    "In the photoelectric effect, it was observed that shining a light on certain metals would lead to an electric current in a circuit. Presumably, the light was knocking electrons out of the metal, causing them to flow. However, it was also observed that while a dim **BLUE LIGHT** was enough to cause A CURRENT, even the strongest, brightest red light caused no current at all. According to wave theory, the strength or amplitude of a light wave was in proportion to its brightness: a bright light should have been easily strong enough to create a large current. Yet, oddly, this was not so."

    "Einstein explained this conundrum by postulating that the electrons were knocked free of the metal by incident photons, with each photon carrying an amount of energy E that was related to the frequency, ? of the light by

    E = h \nu\,

    where h is Planck's constant (6.626 x 10-34 J seconds). Only photons of a high-enough frequency, (above a certain threshold value) could knock an electron free. For example photons of blue light, but not photons of red light, had sufficient energy to free an electron from the metal. More intense light above the threshold frequency could release more electrons, but no amount of light below the threshold frequency could release an electron.

    Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921 for his theory of the photoelectric effect."

    BLUE LIGHTS ASAP!!! ? (or what is higher frequency???) Is this why leaving LIGHTS ON that RB suggest is helping?

    At the very least it may clear up any acne you have:

    http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/arti ... nworks.htm
    "The irradiation of P. acnes with blue visible light (415nm) leads to photoexcitation of bacterial porphyrins, singlet oxygen production and eventually bacterial destruction (3)."


    http://www.vivendodaluz.com/EN/articles ... light.html
    "babies that suffer from jaundice are placed under blue light to help them."

    http://www.electronichealing.co.uk/sadultima4.htm
    Light boxes that help people with SAD.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_therapy
    Lots there.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_diffraction

    "Unlike other types of radiation used in diffraction studies of materials, such as X-rays and neutrons, electrons are charged particles and interact with matter through the Coloumb forces. This means that the incident electrons feel the influence of both the positively charged atomic nuclei and the surrounding electrons. In comparison, X-rays interact with the spatial distribution of the valence electrons, while neutrons are scattered by the atomic nuclei through the strong nuclear forces. In addition, ****the magnetic moment of neutrons is non-zero, and they are therefore also scattered by magnetic fields*****. Because of these different forms of interaction, the three types of radiation are suitable for different studies."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law

    "In either formulation, Coulomb's law is fully accurate only when the objects are stationary, and remains approximately correct only for slow movement. These conditions are collectively known as the electrostatic approximation. When movement takes place, magnetic fields are produced that alter the force on the two objects. The force resulting from magnetic field between moving charges can be thought of as a manifestation of the force from the electrostatic field but with Einstein's theory of relativity taken into consideration."


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics

    "In electrostatics, charge need not be 'static' in the sense of unchanging. Instead 'static' implies that the dynamic coupling between electric and magnetic fields can be ignored. In electrostatics we study e-fields, voltage, and charge, but ignore any magnetic fields generated by the motion of these charges or that may be present for other reasons. Because of the electric field's relationship to and interaction with magnetism, electrostatics is a subfield of electromagnetism."


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics

    Also available are handheld static guns which shoot streams of ions to discharge static on records and lenses. ????? Try one on attachment points? worth a shot (a gun pun haha) ?

    http://www.electrostatics.com/ionizinggun.html
    http://www.electrostatics.com/overhead.html

    WOAHHH, there are reports from some that a HAIRDRYER helps for some reason. I just came across this heat gun that eliminates STATIC electricity:

    http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/14591/2224

    "Heat Gun provides static control.

    October 1, 2002 - Master-Mite ESD-safe Heat Gun acts as UL 499 Certified bench-top heating system that combines heat, air velocity, and volume with static control. Suited for electrostatic sensitive areas, Master-Mite ESD includes brushless motor, carbon-filled plastic conductive housing with surface resistance of less than 500 ohms/sq., and 800°F heating element. Options include interchangeable heating elements for 500 and 650°F temperatures and solder preform attachment."

    The reason I am looking at static electric is because the many little pin pricks I get from this entity (a common sign of neg problems according to RB) feel just like a sharp static electric shock and this ties into EM fields etc. I'm also getting frequent static electric shocks on my hands that sometimes make my arms flinch. So are the hairdryers working due to eliminating static and this affects the neg in some way, as that anti-static gun is basically a glorified hairdryer????


    (also from the same electrostatics wiki link above)
    "Static electricity is an important element in the biological process of pollination by bees, since the charge on a bee's body helps to attract and hold pollen." [Had to include the Bees for RB in case he gets time to read this thread. ;o) ]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_discharge

    "The most spectacular form of ESD is the spark, which occurs when a strong electric field creates an ionized conductive channel in air."

    [Yeah and don't EM fields create strong electric fields by induction?? This little neg is giving me small static shocks via its ability to alter EM fields? SEE *NOTE]

    "A spark is triggered when the electric field strength exceeds approximately 30 kv/cm. This may cause a very rapid increase in the number of free electrons and ions in the air, temporarily causing the air to abruptly become an electrical conductor in a process called dielectric breakdown."

    [So is this why Ionizers have been suggested for clearing negative energy? If you stand by a WATERFALL you get a GOOD FEELING because of all the negative ( - the good Ions rather than + positive) IONS that waterfalls are known to give off. And aren't waterfalls good for repelling NEGS????? Is it because of the IONS?]

    *NOTE: Yeah I was right about EM fields tying in with static electric :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_potential

    "Electric potential may be conceived of as "electric pressure". Where this "pressure" is uniform, nothing happens, just as we do not feel the static atmospheric pressure at sea level. However, where the PRESSURE VARIES [?], it produces an electric field which creates a force that can move charged particles to different locations.

    Mathematically, it is the potential f (a scalar field) associated with the conservative electric field E (E = -?f) that occurs when the magnetic field is time invariant (so that ? × E = 0 from Faraday's law of induction)."


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_field

    "In the dynamic case the electric field is accompanied by a magnetic field (if charges producing electric field move with constant velocity), or by electromagnetic field (when charges move with acceleration). Both electric and magnetic fields have energy associated with them, and e/m field being a field in motion also has momentum. Energy of e/m field is quantized (and quanta are called photons)."


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation

    "Since light is an oscillation, it is not affected by travelling through static electric or magnetic fields in a linear medium such as a vacuum. In nonlinear media such as some [SALT BATH?] CRYSTALS, HOWEVER, ****interactions can occur between LIGHT and STATIC ELECTRIC and MAGNETIC FIELDS**** - these interactions include the Faraday effect and the Kerr effect."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_diffraction

    "The study of magnetic materials is complicated by the fact that electrons are deflected in magnetic fields by the Lorentz force. Although this phenomenon may be exploited to study the magnetic domains of materials by Lorentz force microscopy, it may make crystal structure determination virtually impossible."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_force

    "In physics, the Lorentz force is the force exerted on a charged particle in an electromagnetic field. The particle will experience a force due to electric field of qE, and due to the magnetic field qv × B. Combined they give the Lorentz force equation (or law):

    \mathbf{F} = q (\mathbf{E} + \mathbf{v} \times \mathbf{B}),

    where

    F is the force (in newtons)
    E is the electric field (in volts per meter)
    B is the magnetic field (in webers per square meter, or equivalently, teslas)
    q is the electric charge of the particle (in coulombs)
    v is the instantaneous velocity of the particle (in meters per second)
    and × is the cross product.

    Thus a positively charged particle will be accelerated in the same linear orientation as the E field, but will curve perpendicularly to the B field according to the right-hand rule."


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    Notes: Random EM field pulses to cover various wavelengths (unless can measure the negs wavelength.. but it seems to be able to change it, hence need for random as it might be able to change its field so that the field of the EM pulse has little effect on it if only one wavelength is used. --- "These extra terms are responsible for electromagnetic radiation. When any wire (or other conducting object such as an antenna) conducts alternating current, electromagnetic radiation is propagated at the same frequency as the electric current." ) So basically pulse a constantly changing current through a coil and apply to attachment point (coil wrapped in something non-conductive obviously.).

    Clothing with coating/lining of many layers of nano-sized crystals as a possible shield?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractive_index

    "The strong electric field of high intensity light (such as output of a laser) may cause a medium's refractive index to vary as the light passes through it, giving rise to nonlinear optics."

    [Interesting that Light can give off strong electric fields... is it this electric field affecting negs???? Electric Convulsive Therapy does work sometimes for mental health patients... (and so do EM pulses, see below)]

    "Some common mirages are caused by a spatially-varying refractive index of air."

    [Air from hairdryers and fans... is the refractive index of the air varying thus affecting EM fields/negs more.... ? ]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_in ... refraction

    I read this, and :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization

    "In electrodynamics, polarization (also spelled polarisation) is the property of electromagnetic waves, such as light, that describes the direction of their transverse electric field. More generally, the polarization of a transverse wave describes the direction of oscillation in the plane perpendicular to the direction of travel. Longitudinal waves such as sound waves do not exhibit polarization, because for these waves the direction of oscillation is along the direction of travel."

    [and was thinking a spiral kind ("right-hand circular polarization") of wave might have more chance of disrupting the up-down or left-right EM field waves and if to confirm my thoughts there is that bit on the end about soundwaves and loud music certainly affects negs- READ the above POLARIZATION link where it also says this:

    "Many animals are apparently capable of perceiving the polarization of light, which is generally used for navigational purposes, since the linear polarization of sky light is always perpendicular to the direction of the sun. This ability is very common among the insects, including BEES, which use this information to orient their communicative dances." - another little BEE to follow for RB ]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromag ... on_hazards

    "The best understood biological effect of electromagnetic fields is to cause DIALECTRIC HEATING. For example, touching an antenna while a transmitter is in operation can cause severe burns. Birds sitting on very high-power antennas when transmission begins can be instantly cooked by RF energy. In fact, that is the principle behind the operation of a microwave oven."

    [RIGHT, when I have this ENTITY giving me full on trouble I can feel it attaching (or energy) at my ears and mainly around my HEAD and back of neck, amongst other places, and MY EARS and this whole area GET HOT (similar to how they get hot when I use my old mobile phone for lengthy periods, which is also due to EM fields it is giving off! - so this could be this dialectic heating caused by the EM fields this NEG is attempting to use on me.]

    From the same link above:

    "There is also a body of evidence which supports the existence of complex biological effects of weaker non-thermal electromagnetic fields (see Bioelectromagnetics), including weak ELF magnetic fields and modulated RF and microwave fields. The theoretical mechanism of action of non-thermal electromagnetic fields is not fully understood, but there are some established biological effects. [1] [2] Because the extent of Non-thermal effects is not fully established, they may be beneficial or harmful. A common position presented regarding these effects is that, since they are not well understood, a precautionary principle approach would suggest minimizing exposure whenever possible."

    Some studies have even suggested that a small percentage of the population may be electromagnetically sensitive and can physically react to very low level fields even in double-blind experiments. It does not seem to be a congenital condition and theories have been put forth that some form of external trigger such as previous chemical exposure may bring about this electrical sensitivity (ES)."

    [Check those 1 and 2, interesting.]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioelectromagnetics

    [I'll paste everything from this one]

    "Bioelectromagnetics

    Bioelectromagnetics is the study of how electromagnetic fields interact with and influence biological processes. Common areas of investigation include the mechanism of animal migration and navigation using the geomagnetic field, studying the potential effects of man-made sources of electromagnetic fields, such as those produced by the power distribution system and mobile phones, and developing novel therapies to treat various conditions.

    While several treatments based on the use of magnetic fields have been reported in peer-reviewed journals, the only ones that have been approved by the FDA are the use of pulsed magnetic fields to aid non-union bone fractures. Transcranial magnetic stimulation is currently under ACTIVE STUDY in MULTIPLE RESEARCH CENTRES [YEEEHAAAA GREAT! ALSO TEST IT'S AFFECT ON CANCEROUS TUMORS PLEASE!!], and will likely become an approved THERAPY IN FUTURE [DAMN RIGHT IT WILL!].
    Contents

    * 1 Introduction: general features of observed interactions
    o 1.1 Thermal vs nonthermal nature
    o 1.2 Behavioral effects
    o 1.3 TMS (and related)
    * 2 See also
    * 3 References
    o 3.1 Organizations
    o 3.2 Books
    o 3.3 Journals
    o 3.4 Journal Articles
    o 3.5 External links


    Introduction: general features of observed interactions

    Thermal vs nonthermal nature

    Most of the molecules that make up the human body interact only weakly with electromagnetic fields (EMF) that are in the radiofrequency or extremely low frequency bands. One basic interaction is the absorption of energy from the EMF, which can cause tissue to heat up; more intense field exposures will produce greater heating. This heat deposition can lead to biological effects ranging from discomfort to protein denaturation to burns. Many nations and regulatory bodies (for example, the International Commission on Non-Ionizing Radiation Protection) have established safety guidelines to limit the EMF exposure to a non-thermal level, which can either be defined as heating only to the point where the excess heat can be dissipated/radiated away, or as some small temperature increase that is not detectable with current instruments (such as a heating of less than 0.1°C).

    However, some research has indicated that biological effects may be present for these non-thermal exposures. Various mechanisms have been proposed to explain non-thermal exposures, and there may be several mechanisms at work underlying the differing phenomena observed.

    Behavioral effects

    Many subtle, and at times, not-so-subtle effects on behaviour have been reported from exposure to magnetic fields, with a particular focus in research on pulsed magnetic fields. The specific pulseform used appears to be an important factor for the behavioural effect seen. For instance, a pulsed magnetic field originally designed for magnetic resonance spectroscopic imaging was found to alleviate symptoms in bipolar patients (Rohan et al, 2004), while another MRI pulse had no effect. A whole-body exposure to a pulsed magnetic field was found to alter standing balance (Thomas et al, 2001) and pain perception (Shupak et al, 2004) in other studies.
    [edit]

    TMS (and related)

    A strong changing magnetic field can induce electrical currents in conductive tissue, such as the brain. Since the magnetic field will penetrate tissue, it can be generated outside of the head to induce currents within, hence Transcranial magnetic stimulation [AND NEG INTERFERENCE!]. These currents will depolarize parts of the brain, leading to changes in the patterns of neural activation. Essentially, it is a form of electroconvulsive therapy using induced currents from strongly changing magnetic fields rather than inserted electrodes. This type of controlled seizure can be useful in treating disorders such as severe depression, or as a tool for inducing localized brain activation in functional imaging studies."

    [check the link for links and sources/notes etc]



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism
    [PLENTY to read there]

    This next one links into all of this, IGNORE the planet hypothesis stuff and read about MAXWELL and the Hyperdimension stuff around halfway down this page and also the next page (link at bottom of first page).

    http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper1.html


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    Mother of God help us...I think I'm going to have to print out your posting and read through all of it carefully.

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    OK I tried to go sleep and thought I would write this out in the morning, but I was laying in bed thinking about it and the more I thought the more it looked like I really did have a reasonable explanation of what causes Cancer. It just seems too simple for it to be correct and I must have gone wrong somewhere? It's so simple surely someone else would have thought of this by now? But then I realized that no-one has because no-one else is looking for small attachments to cancer victims' bodies by "Invisible Spirits". They have looked at EMF emissions from stuff like mobile phone towers but they're not expecting there to be little lumps of invisible 'energy' (negs) attached directly to the skin or flesh with the EM fields acting directly on the cells (rather than the much less harmful waves we have bouncing around us every day). A scientist would think it impossible for 'blobs' of EM energy apparently being formed from nowhere (or would they, dare I mention 'Dark Matter' and 'Dark Energy' - Dark meaning invisible?). Its not connected to any eletrical devices and human flesh wouldn't give off strong enough EM fields to be able to harm itself so where is that EM field coming from? (And that's a very good question I'll leave for another day).

    After researching about how EM fields work all day today I know a bit more about how EM fields can affect us biologically. After making my previous post I went back to wikipedia to look at what was known about how Cancer works so far and this just looks so obvious I am wondering if I'm gonna make myself look stupid here lol. Ok, here goes, my explanation about Cancer:

    We start with a quote from the previous post regarding EMF's causing tissue to heat up:

    "This heat deposition can lead to biological effects ranging from discomfort to protein denaturation to burns."

    Now I didn't know what "protein denaturation" meant so I just did what I had been doing all day and read up about it:

    http://class.fst.ohio-state.edu/FST822/ ... /Denat.htm

    "Protein denaturation is commonly defined as any noncovalent change in the structure of a protein. This change may alter the secondary, tertiary or quaternary structure of the molecules."

    And:

    "For those proteins that are enzymes, denaturation can be defined as the loss of enough structure to render the enzyme inactive. "

    Right, so I don't know what "noncovalent change" means from the above quote so again I look it up:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncovalent_bonding

    "Intramolecular noncovalent interactions are largely responsible for the secondary and tertiary structure of proteins and therefore the protein's function in the mechanisms of life. Intermolecular noncovalent interactions are responsible for protein complexes (quaternary structure) where two or more proteins function in a coherent mechanism."

    Ok so then I looked up proteins:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein

    "Proteins are also important in cell signaling, immune responses, cell adhesion, and the CELL CYCLE." [it also mentions DNA replication...]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_replication

    "DNA replication or DNA synthesis is the process of copying a double-stranded DNA strand in a cell, prior to cell division."

    Right, it looks like this is headed somewhere because Cancer is caused by out of control cell division:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_division

    "Cancer cells, on the other hand, are "immortal." An enzyme called telomerase, absent in normal cells but present in large quantites in cancerous cells, rebuilds the telomeres, allowing division to continue indefinitely."

    OK, so what is this "telomeres" (this is getting harder to follow, I hope I am connecting this right)?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomerase

    "When cells are approaching the Hayflick limit in cell cultures, the time to senescence can be extended by the inactivation of the tumor suppressor proteins - TP53 and Retinoblastoma protein (pRb)."

    OK let's just take a look at those "tumor suppressor PROTEINS (what we learned about earlier that can get affected by EMF's) :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumor_suppressor_gene

    "Some proteins involved in cell adhesion prevent tumor cells from dispersing, block loss of contact inhibition, and inhibit metastasis [2]"

    All well and good, but what if these proteins have suffered "protein denaturation", their inner workings changed by some rogue EMF? Well, they wouldn't be working correctly for starters, would they? "the time to senescence can be extended by the inactivation of the tumor suppressor proteins." Ok let's look up that bit about this "metastasis" these proteins are supposed to inhibit (if they were working correctly) :

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metastasis

    "Metastasis (Greek: change of the state) is the spread of cancer from its primary site to other places in the body (e.g., brain, liver).

    Cancer cells can break away from a primary tumor [the neg attachment point - McA], penetrate into lymphatic and blood vessels, circulate through the bloodstream, and grow in a distant focus (metastasize) in normal tissues elsewhere in the body.

    Tumors are classified as either benign or malignant [depends how many proteins have been affected by the EMF?]. Malignant tumors can spread by invasion and metastasis while benign tumors cannot (and only grow locally). By definition, the term "cancer" applies only to malignant tumors. Still, some tumors with benign histology can behave as malignant tumors, for example in brain tumors, where treatment has to be as aggressive as with malignant disease.

    Patients diagnosed with cancer want to know whether their disease is local or has spread to other locations. It is the ability to spread to other tissues and organs that makes cancer a potentially life-threatening disease, so there is great interest in understanding what makes metastasis possible for a cancerous tumor."

    Right, well, as far as I can see it looks probable that the proteins that are supposed to inhibit metastasis have been whacked out of normal action due to "protein denaturation" caused by EMF's. Let's finish reading about "metastasis":


    "Cells which have been thus altered will eventually undergo an event termed a "crisis" when the majority of the cells in the culture die. Sometimes, a cell does not stop dividing once it reaches crisis. Typically the telomeres are lost, and the integrity of the chromosomes declines with every subsequent cell division. Exposed chromosome ends are interpreted as a double stranded breaks (DSB) in DNA; such damage is usually repaired by reattaching (religating) the broken ends together. When the cell does this due to telomere shortening, the ends of different chromosomes can be attached together. This temporarily solves the problem of lacking telomeres, but during anaphase of cell division the fused chromosomes are randomly ripped apart causing many mutations and chromosomal abnormalities. As this process continues, the cell's genome becomes unstable. Eventually, either sufficient damage will be done to the cell's chromosomes such that cell dies (via programmed cell death (apoptosis or not), or an additional mutation will take place that activates telomerase."

    As I am understanding it, during cell division it is creating an identical mirror of the first cell but because this cell has a protein that has been changed it is replicating more dodgy cells. More:

    "With the activation of telomerase, some types of cells and their offspring become immortal, that is, their chromosomes won't become unstable no matter how many cell divisions they undergo (they bypass the Hayflick limit) thus avoiding cell death as long as the conditions for their duplication are met. Many cancer cells are considered 'immortal' because telomerase activity allows them to divide virtually forever, which is why they can form tumors. A good example of cancer cells' immortality is HeLa cells, which were originally removed from the cervical cancer of Henrietta Lacks in 1951 and are still used in laboratories as a model cell line. They are indeed immortal - daily production of HeLa cells is estimated at several tons even up to this day - all from the few cells taken from Ms. Lacks' tumor."

    Does that seem too simple to anyone else? Of course, my explanation depends on whether I am correct about neg attachments causing EMF's in the cells but everything is pointing me in that direction. What needs to be done is a extremly sensitive EMF meter/scanner built and scan the "primary tumors" of Cancer patients to see if any EMF's show up. If they do, then I get the Nobel Prize LOL! OK, seriously, can someone knowledgable in biology show me where I went wrong?

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    Unfortunately, EMF is only one of the causes of cancerous growth- viruses and almost any pathological process in cells can result in cancer, emf being one of them.
    Without being any kind of expert in this, I would say that anything that irritates cells constantly enough (such as many infections in the same area, emf exposure (for the reasons previously explained in McArthur's post) And prolonged environmental pollution (as in the case of one type of lung cancer, for example)- in other words, any prolonged & excessive irritation can cause cancer in cells, for a variety of reasons. If I were going to extrapolate a little here, I would say that all these causes cause the chemical problem with the cell-killing system to go wrong and let the 'hinky' cells to start growing uncontrolled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CFTraveler
    Unfortunately, EMF is only one of the causes of cancerous growth- viruses and almost any pathological process in cells can result in cancer, emf being one of them.
    Without being any kind of expert in this, I would say that anything that irritates cells constantly enough (such as many infections in the same area, emf exposure (for the reasons previously explained in McArthur's post) And prolonged environmental pollution (as in the case of one type of lung cancer, for example)- in other words, any prolonged & excessive irritation can cause cancer in cells, for a variety of reasons. If I were going to extrapolate a little here, I would say that all these causes cause the chemical problem with the cell-killing system to go wrong and let the 'hinky' cells to start growing uncontrolled.
    Yes a good point, I was going to add this myself but couldn't get on here the past few days. I'm not suggesting Negs are the cause of all cancers, as some are apparently caused by virus ( human papilloma virus is one example that also causes DNA to mutate ). I'm also not suggesting Negs have any ability to cause cancers purposely but this is in fact a side-effect of them making an attachment point to someone and is somewhat random. Just adding some more to this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telomere

    "Eventually, the last RNA attaches, and DNA polymerase and DNA ligase come along to convert the RNA (of the primers) to DNA, and seal the gaps in between the Okazaki fragments. But in order to change RNA to DNA, there must be another DNA strand in front of the RNA primer. This happens at all the sites of the lagging strand, but it doesn't happen at the end where the last RNA primer is attached. Ultimately, that RNA is destroyed by enzymes that degrade RNA left on the DNA. Thus, a section of telomeres is lost during each cycle of replication"

    Not if the following has happened: "For those proteins that are enzymes, denaturation can be defined as the loss of enough structure to render the enzyme inactive. "

    If the enyme is inactive then that last RNA doesn't get destroyed (or not destroyed properly) and no section of telomeres is lost as it's supposed to?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosis

    "If a cell's capability of apoptosis is damaged (for example, by **mutation**), or if the initiation of apoptosis is blocked (by a virus), a damaged cell can continue dividing without restrictions, developing into cancer. "

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation

    "Changes in DNA caused by mutation can cause errors in protein sequence, creating partially or completely non-functional proteins. To function correctly, each cell depends on thousands of proteins to function in the right places at the right times. When a mutation alters a protein [ which can be caused by EMF's - McA] that plays a critical role in the body, a medical condition can result."


    When Robert Bruce says that a lot of attachment points will cause lumps this fits in with all of the above. Those lumps are caused by protein/cell mutation, a majority of which are 'benign' and non-cancerous. Of course, not all lumps are a sign of neg attachment as there could be other causes for these mutations.

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    Next up I found some more interesting links on EM pulses being used in psychiatry to cure conditions ranging from depression to hallucinatory 'voices'.

    Zapping Those Voices in The Head - Link

    Zapping Those Voices in The Head

    By Daniel DeNoon
    WebMD Medical News
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    March 23, 2000 (Atlanta) -- The voices sound real, and they won't go away. From deep within a schizophrenic patient's head, they relentlessly repeat their awful messages, which can urge suicide or even murder. Now help may be on the way: A report in the journal Lancet suggests that an electromagnetic device can zap the voices out of the head without hurting the brain.

    The technique, rTMS, which stands for repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation, uses a handheld device to deliver a low-voltage electromagnetic pulse to a specific area of the brain. TMS pulses -- experienced as a tingling sensation -- do not damage the brain, although some patients report a minor headache due to muscle contractions of the face and scalp. The experimental devices have been able to help some patients with severe depression. Now Yale researcher Ralph E. Hoffman, MD, reports that rTMS can hush the voices haunting some schizophrenic patients -- one of the most difficult-to-treat symptoms known to psychiatry.

    "I thought it was pretty remarkable," Hoffman, medical director of the Yale Psychiatric Institute, tells WebMD. "For a couple of patients, it seems to have had some lasting benefits. We are seeing a response rate now of up to 75%. For most of the patients who have a response, it seems to endure for months. It's frequently not a total response, but there is at least a 50% decrease in [auditory] hallucinations."

    The voices technically are hallucinations, but this doesn't mean that they aren't real. "It is not in their imagination," Hoffman says. "They are having [the perception of hearing] in the same way we hear people around us. ... We compared the loudness of the hallucinations with [a recording of a person reading played at various volumes]. Some of these range up to 60 or 70 decibels -- really a loud sound."

    During puberty, normal brain development goes through a process of fine-tuning by getting rid of unnecessary connections between areas of the brain. Hoffman's theory is that for some reason this process goes terribly wrong in some people, and too many brain connections are lost. One result can be a loss of proper function in the part of the brain that controls the way sounds are translated into speech, and in schizophrenic patients this leads to hearing voices in the head. If this is so, Hoffman says, then calming this part of the brain should quiet the voices. The rTMS device appears to do just that.

    In an interview with WebMD, rTMS developer Alvaro Pascual-Leone, MD, PhD, says that the device originally was created as a way to map the language areas of the brain without surgery. While testing the device, he found that it had long-lasting effects on the brain. Depending on how, when, and where in the brain it was used, the rTMS had either a stimulating or calming effect. Taking advantage of these effects, he and other researchers began exploring whether rTMS could be used as an alternative to electroconvulsive therapy (ECT), sometimes called "shock therapy," in patients with severe depression. They have since expanded their studies to try the technique in patients with other psychiatric conditions, and Pascual-Leone finds the Hoffman results intriguing.

    "Suppression of hallucination for months is fabulous and very interesting," Pascual-Leone says. "It is a very hard problem -- patients generally do not get very good responses even after long-term medication. To help with that aspect of the disease would be very helpful indeed."

    Pascual-Leone, director of the Harvard laboratory of magnetic brain stimulation, notes that his group also is experimenting with rTMS as a treatment for schizophrenia. He says that one problem he has encountered is that when the effects of treatment wear off, some patients have worse symptoms than they did before undergoing the experimental therapy.

    This rebound effect has not occurred in patients treated with rTMS for depression in studies under way at Emory University, according to William McDonald, MD, director of the Fuqua center for late-life depression. "The biggest concern is that it can cause seizures, so people are excluded from our studies if they have a history of seizures," he tells WebMD. "There is no apparent downside. There are no memory deficits, which gives rTMS an advantage over ECT."

    Hoffman says he has undergone rTMS so that he could personally evaluate the effects. "It doesn't exactly feel like a shock but it feels weird, like a tingling sensation, kind of like a woodpecker tapping on the skull," he says. "It also causes a contraction of the scalp or face, and may produce other contractions. It feels odd, but by and large the patients tolerate it very well. But we have a selected group of patients who volunteer for this. They are pretty desperate, and their families are desperate."

    One fear Hoffman was worried about was whether paranoid patients with a delusional fear that people were trying to control their brains would object to the use of electromagnetic waves to -- well, to control their brains. "It's something we are concerned about, but the patients have actually been reasonable," he says. "It is more acceptable to deal with someone actually trying to control their brain than their fears about it."

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    Next article.

    This Link takes you to the Abstract of the paper if you want to see the entire text you just need to register for free.

    Transcranial magnetic stimulation as a therapeutic tool in psychiatry - Wim Simons and Michel Dierick.

    [I'll just add some snippets.]


    "Lower frequencies have showed to suppress neuronal activity. Currently it is accepted that high frequency rTMS (>1 Hz) causes immediate neuronal excitation, whereas low frequency rTMS (=1 Hz) causes immediate neuronal inhibition. Underlying possible mechanisms are still subject of preclinical research (Fitzgerald et al. 2002; George et al. 2002, 2003). Furthermore, it may be presumed that high frequency rTMS, enhancing neuronal excitability, can induce long-term potentialisation (LTP) intersynaptic transmission. Analogously low frequency rTMS would cause long-term depression (LTD)."

    [Right, so low frequency EMF's to certain parts of the brain may cause Depression. Are there any Neg victims that haven't had depression?]

    "Also human neuro-endocrine research adds support to the possibility of TMS influencing mood. In depressed patients, a disinhibition of the limbic–hypothalamicâ€⠜pituitary–adrenocortical (LHPA) axis is well documented. Normalisation of its function has been associated with clinical response to classical antidepressant therapy. Similar changes were measured in studies applying rTMS (George et al. 1996b; Cohrs et al. 1998; Pridmore 1999; Reid and Pridmore 1999; Szuba et al. 2000, 2001; Pridmore et al. 2001; Burt et al. 2002; Padberg et al. 2002a; Padberg and Möller 2003; Zwanzger et al. 2003)."

    [Are EMF's causing this disfunction of the LHPA and if so what is the source of these EMFs?]

    "Next to these preclinical studies, a few studies investigated the clinical effect of prefrontal rTMS on mood in normal volunteers (Schlaepfer et al. 2003). Some show transient brief and discrete mood- lifting or -lowering changes with stimulation of the left dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (left DLPF) or right dorsolateral prefrontal cortex (right DLPF) (George et al. 1996b; Pascual-Leone et al. 1996; Dearing et al. 1997). This raises an important mood issue relevant to TMS: laterality of the brain. According to the laterality hypothesis of mood, the left hemisphere would be responsible for positive emotions while the right hemisphere would evoke negative emotions (Padberg and Möller 2003). This could explain why dysfunctions in the left orbitofrontal and prefrontal cortex were noted in depressed patients, ischemic lesions in the left prefrontal cortex also resulted more often in post-stroke depression than right-sided lesions and anatomical and functional imaging (CAT, MR, SPECT and PET) studies in primary and secondary depressions show abnormalities in the left prefrontal cortex. Some TMS studies in healthy subjects also support this laterality hypothesis. One study using low frequency rTMS at 130% MT in female subjects showed right-sided stimulation to result in selective attention towards angry faces in a pictorial emotional stroop task, whereas left-sided identical stimulation produced selective attention away from them (d'Alfonso et al. 2000). In other studies mood states varied from reported feelings of frustration, sadness and even spontaneous weeping after right DLPF TMS to feelings of happiness after left DLPF TMS. There were some cases of short-lasting hypomania after left DLPF rTMS in healthy human volunteers (Nedjat and Folkerts 1999). Recent studies, however, failed to replicate lateralised effects of prefrontal rTMS on mood (Mosimann et al. 2000; Padberg and Möller 2003). For example, lower frequencies (1 Hz), supposed to suppress brain excitability, applied to the right DLPF did not induce mood changes in 19 healthy volunteers (Jenkins et al. 2002). Differences in used TMS parameter settings can partly explain these incongruous results."

    [I know some negs can influence Em fields. Do these negs already know that certain EM fields to certain parts of a human brain will induce various moodswings? I think they do and this is exactly what they do to some victims, for whatever reason.]

    "Psychotic disease

    Beneficial effects of rTMS on psychosis as a whole have not been observed until today (Klein et al. 1999; McNamara et al. 2001). Psychotic depression does not respond as well to rTMS as to ECT. Two treatment-resistant depressed females developed psychotic symptoms with high frequency rTMS over the left prefrontal cortex. The symptoms resolved after discontinuing rTMS (Conca et al. 2002). Zwanzger et al. (2002) reported the occurrence of recurrent severe delusions in one nonpsychotic depressed patient treated with rTMS. A possible explanation is the enhancement of dopaminergic neurotransmission caused by rTMS (Strafella et al. 2001, 2003).

    [So EM pulses can cause psychosis..... ]

    There is one symptom of psychosis, namely hallucinations, which can be the target for rTMS because it originates from brain regions in reach of the magnetic field: imaging studies show activation in the right and left superior temporal cortex, Brocca's area and the left temporo-parietal region of people suffering from acoustic hallucinations (Hoffman et al. 2003). In a first clinical trial, a statistically significant improvement was observed on a hallucination scale after 10 days of rTMS at the left auditory cortex in nine medication-resistant hallucinating patients (d'Alfonso et al. 2002). In two double-blind sham-controlled trials low frequency (1 Hz) rTMS over the left temporo-parietal cortex produced a decrease in acoustic hallucinations over time in 36 schizophrenic patients. A substantial part of the responders (52%) showed sustained improvements at 15 weeks follow-up. They also paid significantly less attention to the hallucinations (Hoffman et al. 2000, 2003).

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    Quote Originally Posted by McArthur

    Zapping Those Voices in The Head - Link

    Hoffman says he has undergone rTMS so that he could personally evaluate the effects. "It doesn't exactly feel like a shock but it feels weird, like a tingling sensation, kind of like a woodpecker tapping on the skull," he says. "It also causes a contraction of the scalp or face, and may produce other contractions.
    I just read Nikpalj's thread HERE
    where he quotes the following from another neg victim called "Need" from the astralpulse forums:

    "There is a heavy propulsion to it and it knocks my head like a woodpecker forcing energy into my head. There are at least fifty different strands of the wires forcing energy into my physical body. This new network of wires were not there before my problems started. "
    There's just no way this is mere coincidence. Both Dr. Hoffman and "Need" were experiencing EM pulses to their heads and described it in the same way, the difference being that one was using a machine and the other being attacked by a neg using EM pulses to his head.

  10. #60
    Questions:
    How do the following affect an EM field (say 5 microteslas) when introduced into the center of the field:

    1. A plastic hosepipe of fast running water.
    From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetism

    "Electromagnetism is the physics of the electromagnetic field; a field encompassing all of space which exerts a force on particles that possess the property of electric charge, and is in turn affected by the presence and motion of those particles. "

    http://www.abc.net.au/science/surfingsc ... bender.htm

    "If you bring the comb near the surface of a glass of still water, nothing happens. But moving water is a different story as you saw. The stream of water contains water molecules which possess an electric charge. Static electric fields can force moving charged particles to change direction and this is what’s happening when you bring the comb near the stream of water."

    So is this why the running water though hosepipe works on negs, it is affecting their EM fields??

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    Coming soon: Lightning is a PLASMA and how this relates to certain lightning victims being cured of possible neg-related illness (see earlier posts in this thread for examples).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_%28physics%29

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    Thoughts for The Future: Will future generations of World Leaders be screened for negs using sophisticated Em scanners so as to make sure they have no resident negs influencing their decisions (and health)?

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