Why would God do that? (from: The truth behind the psiwheel)

[CFTraveler]

Okay. This has been helpful and thought provoking. I'm getting there. Now... why male and female? Why not, say, three genders? Or one? (I know some animals are both, of course.) Thoughts?

I'm getting closer and closer to my own true divinity all the time, I just need to tell my monkey mind to shut up, and in order to do that, I need to feed it good information.

In my view there are more than three genders- we just have the capacity to only conceptualize two, and anything else is a subset of the two that are perceived to be opposite.
Biologically, humans have two for reproduction, but the rest of nature has more options.
I'm bowing out of the deeper aspects of this convo for self-preservation reasons.

[Psychotronic]

It is a question of whole DNA system too and its connection to other things - body, mind...
We can presume it like natural informatic system, it is a part of unconscious mind. It came to being only for informatic and evolutionary reasons. Matter is product of consciousness and matter(our bodies) is coming back to consciousness. In evolution we are coming back to sources of life, to more consciousness like matter, to more knowledge like consciousness. If something was created by these pure systems, it can have only improving effect in my reason. We can discuss what effect has it.

[star]

We are all gods but the truth is those who have travelled the path before us still have more power. I'd grab some planes now before the astral gets too crowded. Sheesh, you realize that many of us have restrictions placed on our powers? Those olde` gods can be a pain in the ass.

[journyman161]

We are all gods but the truth is those who have travelled the path before us still have more power. I'd grab some planes now before the astral gets too crowded. Sheesh, you realize that many of us have restrictions placed on our powers? Those olde` gods can be a pain in the ass.

*grins* I like to think that maybe we have a touch of advantage ourselves...

Briefly, if the game is learning about ALL, if we are truly here to bring knowledge of ALL back to the Godhood as we grow through the levels, then those who come later along the path start from a deeper level of understanding of how things are. For example, keing able to consciously manipulate the plenum with full understanding of the intricacies seems to be a more effective position than knowing the Words of Power but not how they function.

Maybe we have a few surprises for the 'olde gods'? Perhaps Zeus can chuck his lightning but we can use it to spin our auras?

[metas]

Has anyone read the book "The Thiaoouba Prophecy"? In the book, the author supposedly has contact with highly advanced species on the other side of our galaxy. The book has a lof of concepts from the New Age movement and my personal conclusions, which made me believe the author was saying the truth. Anyways, the author asks the all smart Thao (his guide) how society should go about homosexuals. I dont remember exacly what he said, but i think the idea is that we should look at it in terms of how the nature intended it. Reproductively speaking, homosexuals cant have offspring. Hence, it is not normal and against nature. But as far as I know they existed in ancient Rome and long before that.

But if we look at Male / Female then we will again see the difference and unity of opposites. There is a whole ancient practice of attaining unity with God through making love with your soul mate. In one example, man sits in lotus posture while woman sits on top and wraps her arms and legs around him. And by the way, that alien race I mentioned - they are hermaphrodites (only one gender, even though they look just like humans aside from being much taller). Having one gender eliminates a lot of societal difficulties we have on our planet, but at the same time we can enjoy a lot of wonderful moments of relationships (as long as there is no total dependency in the relationship).

[wstein]

The reason your ego has trouble letting go of the idea that you are separate from the world is because God convinced himself that way to play hide-and-seek with himself.

I can actually accept this concept, and sometimes even sort of see/experience it.

Any thoughts on WHY God would do such a thing, though?

Wouldn't the correct question be 'Why would Ido such a thing?'?

Set down your ego and see where answering the question leads. Warning: it gets intense in a hurry.

[ButterflyWoman]

Wouldn't the correct question be 'Why would I do such a thing?'?

Set down your ego and see where answering the question leads. Warning: it gets intense in a hurry.

Very apt. Thank you. I will. And thanks for the warning on the intensity, I'll be prepared.

[VioletImagery]

Has anyone read the book "The Thiaoouba Prophecy"? In the book, the author supposedly has contact with highly advanced species on the other side of our galaxy. The book has a lof of concepts from the New Age movement and my personal conclusions, which made me believe the author was saying the truth. Anyways, the author asks the all smart Thao (his guide) how society should go about homosexuals. I dont remember exacly what he said, but i think the idea is that we should look at it in terms of how the nature intended it. Reproductively speaking, homosexuals cant have offspring. Hence, it is not normal and against nature. But as far as I know they existed in ancient Rome and long before that.

Hello metas,

I have read the Thiaoouba Prophecy and I do believe the beings described in it are real and that we could learn a lot from them...but I don't neccessarily agree with everything they say just because they are more 'highly advanced' in some areas than we are. To me, their truth still has some biases in it and I felt they were a bit patronizing at times too. They have their own reasons for interacting with us which may or may not be for our 'highest good', but only WE can determine what our 'highest good' is.

As far as the issue of homosexuality, nature is certainly complicated so to say definitively that something is 'against nature' is difficult at best (plus they are a different species so their biological nature is not going to be the same as ours, even if they did have two sexes).

I read an article that proposed genes responsible for male homosexuality might be linked to the X-chromosome and actually help reproductive success, but only when present in a female. Basically, they are 'boy-liking' genes. And females with a stronger variant of the 'boy-liking' genes reproduce more than females who don't have such strong 'boy-liking' genes. When passed down to a male, however, these genes produce boys that like other boys (so a no-go on the reproduction there). The article proposed that there is a *natural* balance between these two effects in a population, and that is why male homosexuality persists throughout the generations. Certainly an interesting idea. Makes pretty good sense to me and I want to know what they had come up with for female homosexuality too.

And by the way, that alien race I mentioned - they are hermaphrodites (only one gender, even though they look just like humans aside from being much taller). Having one gender eliminates a lot of societal difficulties we have on our planet, but at the same time we can enjoy a lot of wonderful moments of relationships (as long as there is no total dependency in the relationship).

Yes, I agree with you, gender differences (socially constructed or biological) are interesting for sure, even if they can sometimes be troublesome. I don't believe that separating a species into two sexes is a 'lower' form than everyone being hermaphrodites. It is just different. The important thing is to not let one sex dominate the other (an issue that we are still working on on this planet...)

--Kelsey

[ButterflyWoman]

Wow, this is an old thread. Happy to say I've gained a great deal of understanding and insight into this topic since this was first posted.

I still haven't got the full picture, but I have a much, much bigger and better grasp than I did. It hasn't come in a huge rush of understanding, but in bits and pieces. Sometimes the revelations (or realisations, more like) made me cry or laugh or just nod and say, "Ahhh, yes, that makes sense...". Some just popped into my head and I thought, "Oh, right, okay, cool." Eventually, all the pieces of the puzzle will be there and I'll see the big picture, but I see some of it now, so I don't know if it'll blow my mind or not. I do kind of expect to experience that sense of accomplishment you get when you finally finish a puzzle, but I could be wrong on that....

At the moment I'm struggling with what the actual purpose is of having an ego that seems to exist for the express and deliberate purpose of keeping you from seeing your Higher Self, and from gaining greater understanding of things beyond the material. I get that we need an ego to navigate the material world (just as we need a body), but it seems bizarre to have this big part of yourself that is basically in constant opposition to the Godself and knowledge/understanding of the Godself.

I get that struggle creates strength and determination, but still. Seems like a big waste of time for Source to bother taking on the form of a human being and then spend however many years just wallowing in ignorance and isolation.

Yeah, I'll get it eventually. For the moment, though, it's really bugging me....

[CFTraveler]

but it seems bizarre to have this big part of yourself that is basically in constant opposition to the Godself and knowledge/understanding of the Godself.

I've never agreed that that's what the ego does. That's what it can do when trained wrong, but not what it's for, IMO. One of those 'free will zone' things, I suppose.