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    oath Guest

    Meditation? What is it?>!?!? :O

    Quote Originally Posted by CFTraveler
    I already meditate as part of my religious practice- But not a lot (like 15 min.s every day).
    I hardly ever meditate in the traditional sense of sitting lotus type position, clearing mind etc..

    I view meditation as many things, one of them, and the most common as a thinking, specific thinking. If this is true I am in a meditative state for most of my awake, aware, conscious time on this earth. I have also meditated astrally and find it much funner and enjoyable than doing so in the physical, though as one friend put it, "why? Your only on earth for maybe 120-130 years unless nano technology come through".

    Opinions please

    P.S. I also notice that what Mr. Bruce calls trance is, simply put as "mind awake, body asleep". Yet to me trance seems like a sacred word and something difficult to understand, much less perform!

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    Sachiel Guest
    Eh, since when is the average human life-span 120 years at a low?!

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    Akashic_Librarian Guest
    Mediutation, to me is a quiet state of mind, a place hidden deep inside yourself you must find and enter, when you get there you can relax to your fullest and become one with the universe, you can become a god in mortal flesh but only inside, only deep down can you find this place and i dion't think it is sign-posted. As for a human lifespan, WTF!!??? 120 yrs, more like 70-100 tops lol

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    oath Guest
    Calm down guys, its just someones opinion based on his knowledge of how long the current humans will live. Really, acting more like boys than mystics. (no offense, Truth is dangerous sometimes, that doesnt change my opinion and admiration of it though)

    I think I know what you are speaking of Akashic. I have a place like this but never go there. I have described it to a few, each having their own definition of what it is. The ones I can remmeber are nirvana, and 'your sanctuary'. Mine is a field of some sort. Either of lavendar or something like wheat, its quite windy, cloudy, theres a presence, feels like god moving about among the clouds, etc.. The earth is bare and fresh and the dirt is...idk the dirt is something else, all of it. Sometimes It thunders, sometimes there is sun, but a lot of the time it is windy and cloudy. Reminds me of the word apocalypse/revelation.

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    Sachiel Guest
    It's true that we may live longer, but not by that kind of jump...I mean, the earliest creative humans lived to around 40 or so, and the jump in lifespan from then to now has taken thousands of years; why should a little longer take only one generation?

    As to the place, yeah, I have one too, but I'm not sure that's meditation...I see meditation as a complete focus on a single thing, whatever it is.

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    Jaco Guest
    the earliest creative humans lived to around 40 or so, and the jump in lifespan from then to now has taken thousands of years; why should a little longer take only one generation?
    Actually the jump in lifespan took only about one and a half century
    In nineteen century people lived about 40 years (average).
    Now we live longer because of progress in medicine. We have drugs, antibiotics, and all different types of chemicals which help us fight diseases.
    Maybe further advancement, now in genetic engineering, organ cloning and transplantology may increase our lifespan even more

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    Chris Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Sachiel
    As to the place, yeah, I have one too, but I'm not sure that's meditation...I see meditation as a complete focus on a single thing, whatever it is.
    Meditation is relaxed focused awarness. An object taking the part of a focus object (breath, mantra, visual object, sound, visualisation, tactile sensation, even walking/movement meditations etc) to keep the mind clear. At deep states it is possible for the observer and observered (focus) to become the same thing.

    There's a lot of stuff on the net which portrays itself as meditation, but it's simply daydreaming, or drifty visualisation - which won't have any of the long term benefits of meditation.

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    Chris Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaco
    the earliest creative humans lived to around 40 or so, and the jump in lifespan from then to now has taken thousands of years; why should a little longer take only one generation?
    Actually the jump in lifespan took only about one and a half century
    In nineteen century people lived about 40 years (average).
    Now we live longer because of progress in medicine. We have drugs, antibiotics, and all different types of chemicals which help us fight diseases.
    Maybe further advancement, now in genetic engineering, organ cloning and transplantology may increase our lifespan even more
    I've seen it quoted that in the next generation (perhaps ours) genetic understanding of aging will be such, that we should be able to double our current lifespan. I have a feeling we might miss out on this though

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    120 to 130 years was just a generous estimate. There are already a couple of dozen people right now who are over 100 years old. The point I was trying to make was that we have physical bodies for a limited amount of time and astral bodies for nearly forever. It is important to work with and develop the physical body as well as the astral, to make it easier to bring back and understand experiences from the higher planes. Meditation is great. Even 15 minutes per day for 3 months is enough to decrease the response to chemicals like adrenaline (clinical studies; I forgot where I read about it). There really is a lot that a healthy and well treated body can do to support spiritual development. There is also a lot that a neglected body can do to sabotage results.

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    Chris Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom
    120 to 130 years was just a generous estimate. There are already a couple of dozen people right now who are over 100 years old. The point I was trying to make was that we have physical bodies for a limited amount of time and astral bodies for nearly forever. It is important to work with and develop the physical body as well as the astral, to make it easier to bring back and understand experiences from the higher planes. Meditation is great. Even 15 minutes per day for 3 months is enough to decrease the response to chemicals like adrenaline (clinical studies; I forgot where I read about it). There really is a lot that a healthy and well treated body can do to support spiritual development. There is also a lot that a neglected body can do to sabotage results.
    I agree with this. During periods when I go to the gym daily (I know ) it is a lot easier to project.

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