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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychonaut1984
    I've been reading a bit about Kundalini awakenings. I read something about how your higher self blocks your psychic powers until after you are finished integrating the Kundalini awakenings.
    I do not believe HS can block psychic powers . Psychic and clairvoyant powers are increased though when the knowledge and communication of the HS has been attained .
    When speaking of integrating it seems to me that we integrate the lessons of life . I have not heard of integrating the kundalini energy per se .
    So maybe I just don't understand but does this mean that if you have limited success developing your own psychic abilities and have never intentionally/accidentally awakened your Kundalini, that maybe your higher self is just blocking it/
    I don't believe that HS would have reason to block development even if it could and I feel confident that HS does not block us but instead leads us forward in development .

    you won't get any further until you complete the process of awakening/integrating your Kundalini? Is there something like a psychic police that only allows people to receive higher knowledge/powers when they are deemed worthy?
    No. Energy , a human energy body draws in to build up the light quotient of the Human Energy Body , will increase its vibration . As the vibration increases , the powers increase . Kundalini is one aspect of this increase but not the sole cause . Kundalini does not rise once .It has multiple events some rising , some descending upon the spine . Anyone can develop abiliites if they will dedicate self to development and they will learn to ;
    * attain trance
    * sit in meditation
    * do energy work
    * project
    * practice clairvoyance , clairaudience
    * engage in metaphysical practices of all kinds
    * reflect upon choices and actions
    * forgive and let go of emotional garbage and angst
    * give service and energy in the form of time , money , and healing
    ~*~Love , Light & Laughter ~*~

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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    Quote Originally Posted by Korpo
    * Some people that desire psychic powers very much are actually denied access to them. Maybe because it is a selfish desire, maybe because they are not ready, maybe because they need to develop something else first before laying hands on this. What people want is not always what they need. Quite the opposite.
    What about black mages, psychic vampires, etc.? Surely, these are people who should not have been allowed access to psychic abilities, yet they have attained them. My personal opinion is that rather than higher self or some other "higher" blocking, in the cases of many that strongly desire psychic abilities there may be deep-seated belief system filters that prevent them from manifesting abilities. As much as they want power on the surface, their ego doesn't believe it's possible for them to wield it.

    I do acknowledge that you said:
    These are some general observations, not hard rules.
    I just wanted to put out my take on it.

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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros
    I just wanted to put out my take on it.


    In "Autobiography of a Yogi" a person is granted by a guru contact to a spirit servant and abilities. The man took the gift, but soon started to abuse it, even becoming a thief and blackmailer in the process. One day he met the guru again and was held accountable. The tale ended that he repented, and the guru granted that the servant would make sure he would be fed modestly and had enough drink, and the man retired to a cave to review his life in meditation.

    Here the psychic power served both as a possible facilitator for growth, but also as a temptation. The man might have been ready to some degree, but handled the ability irresponsibly. So, sometimes things go wrong, free will, being human and all.

    About the black mages and psychic vampires - I actually have no idea how people gain access to psychic powers that so crassly deviate from any positive life intent and steer so clearly away from any real spiritual development. I always wondered if that is the prime risk of purely mechanistic approaches towards development - that you can activate certain things within the human being without actually starting to develop in the direction of Source. It has been a personal conviction of mine that without the intent to grow spiritually development techniques can be abused to build power instead of helping evolution. Maybe that is why so many techniques have been kept secret...

    I think you can supplant earnest longing with a lot of will. The more will, the less place for grace, inspiration and intuition. I think willpower is more than just a word.

    Just wondering, I don't really know.

    Oliver

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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    Quote Originally Posted by Ouroboros
    What about black mages, psychic vampires, etc.? Surely, these are people who should not have been allowed access to psychic abilities, yet they have attained them. My personal opinion is that rather than higher self or some other "higher" blocking, in the cases of many that strongly desire psychic abilities there may be deep-seated belief system filters that prevent them from manifesting abilities. As much as they want power on the surface, their ego doesn't believe it's possible for them to wield it.
    I'm not convinced that all metaphysical ability comes from trying for it, or even wanting it. In the case of psi-vamps, I knew someone I'm pretty sure is one... but is also as close to rational skepticism about all things metaphysical as one can get while still holding some form of spirituality (Judaism in this case). I've also had to learn that "metaphysically able" and "decent person" don't always go together -- I've known people with demonstrable abilities who were extremely emotionally immature, and another that was both immature AND had no discernable ethical framework as far as I could tell. From what I've seen, I'm half inclined to believe there are times when meta ability goes "tag, you're it," and hopefully the person is able to deal with that without self destructing... or other-people-destructing.

    My thought is that things like emotional maturity, metaphysical ability, willpower, a sense of ethics and responsibility to one's fellow beings, a sense of oneness, intellectual development, wisdom, ability to give and receive love... these things are all technically separate areas of development. Ideally they would be worked on together in a balanced way... but there's nothing saying they have to be (or even that everyone has to operate with the same ideals and value system). In reality if someone wants to focus on some and not others, there's no cosmic police force and nothing else to stop them other than the weigh of their own imbalances and natural consequences of one's actions. It could also be that some people are born more developed in some areas, same as some people are born with above average intelligence, athletic, artistic or what have you.

    I think a lot depends on what the chakras are doing... willpower, metaphysical ability and love/interconnectedness being largely tied into the solar plexus, crown/brow, and heart, respectively. They can be overdeveloped, underdeveloped, damaged, blocked and interfered with in all sorts of combinations, whether the person involved is even aware of it or not... and IMO that accounts for a lot of the diversity we see as far as the abilities and inclinations a person shows in all the aforementioned areas.

    Maybe it would be more helpful to view metaphysical abilities similarly to how we might view the physical senses, and various "normal" talents, rather than something we "get" or something that necessarily demonstrates some sort of "advancement"?

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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    IMO - gaining abilities has nothing to do with becoming a 'better' person. Hell, I can do it and I used to accidently hurt people. Heh.
    I consider it more of a energy body thing, like muscles. Also beliefs can block abilities.
    But a strong energy worker can easily push someone past that too.

    I know - I didn't think many things were possible, that have happened to a chump like I!

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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    I don't think that psychic abilities are some kind of "reward" for being highly developed or moral. I see them as a skill that can be learnt, as a tool for personal usage. How people are going to use them is another story.

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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    Well, I guess "muscles" is a good analogy - some people are just born to have a certain metabolism and build, and some work hard. Working hard will yield a certain build, too, so it is not all pre-determined.

    So, the psy-vamps seem to come "with it", but other people invested a lot of work to get there. There's always talent in varying degrees, I guess.

    Oliver

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    Re: Higher self- Pre-kundalini question

    All people have psychic powers, it just depends if you develop them or suppress them. Psychic powers are intimately related to ones bioenergetic level, and since kundalini is an amplification of metabolic energy and the energy of consciousness psychic powers are usually greatly amplified during an awakening. In fact an increase in supersensation, precognition, high level dreams, telepathy, revelation, visions etc...is the one of the main signs that one is indeed entering an awakening...this along with extreme sexual drive with no necessary object of desire.

    If you are already sensitive (open) enough to be having an awakening, chances are you won't misuse your psychic powers...however it is extremely difficult for an initiate in the throws of having megavolts plowing through their hippocampus (memory) and limbic system (emotion) to integrate and orientate this psychic knowledge into the steeped down egoic mode of our everyday social realm. Thus learning where to put ones omniscience and to pull all forces into a creative and uplifting outcome is where surrender to the genius is necessary. Since one can feel and know so deeply into the nature of our collective reality, and since ones entire life comes to a nexus in space and time...knowing that the highest Muse is focused on the Sacred Arts of species survival and uplift allows us to not get wound up in the endless leviathan of personal introversion. And thus we expand to infinity and bring our High Art into the world to the well-being of all creatures.

    When we do the work of upgrading our cellular metabolism, detoxing that which occludes the light, marrying the hemispheres, and withdrawing our focus from the left-brain and putting it into the right-brain and enteric brain...when we integrate all this through the heart to Whole Person functioning, then we will live increasingly in a luminous dream of multilayered meaning and endless mirrored reflections in Kairos (archetypal time).

    “Synchronicities are expressions of the dreamlike nature of reality – moments in time when the timeless, dreamlike nature of the universe shines forth its radiance and openly reveals itself to us, offering an open doorway to lucidity.” Paul Levy

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