Neg attack

[Yang]

Hi, I'm new here.

I posted my experience on another forum and was directed here. So I'll copy my post here. As far as I can understand I fell under a neg attack. I have no experience with those fellas so any insight would be appreciated. I read Robert's articles on protection and I'm gonna go take a salt bath as soon as I have posted this.

I've been having OBEs for years and years and never till today have I had any unpleasant ones and negative ones. Never before have I met a negative "entity" till now.

Once I felt there was an alien outside my window during projection, but it didn't scare me or anything and when I got out there was noone there.

A few hours ago I had trouble falling asleep. I started hearing the loud noise in my ears that felt like my eardrums were about to explode and my body started vibrating. You know the drill. I've had unintentional OBEs lots of times before so I decided to go with.

This one felt very different than all the others I've had. I even left my body in a way I usually do not.

After a few failed attempts I floated out of my body and high up in the ceiling. I was in my room and noticed I was having trouble getting down and usually moving around doesn't give me any problems. I also usually find it hard to see anything, but this time everything was clear. The room was dark though unlike real life.

I saw my mom sitting on my computer chair. My mind was clear and I decided to do something that's been on my list of things to do, contact my higher self. She turned into a creepy bony old man saying he is it. Suddenly I remembered something I read somewhere to ask if he is from the light and truth, three times in a row to make certain a negative entity is just not messing with me. While the firs yes was a quick one the second one came after some stuttering and took a while. I noticed he was having difficulty saying yes the second time. I didn't need that to convince me he wasn't the real deal. He was creeping me out.

He came closer and closer and tried to touch me. I tried to push him away, but I felt him as real as if it had been physical. He finally said something that scared me "I am going to attach myself to you and take away all your energy, you only have one day of it left." I went into panic mode and literally screamed for my guardian angels to help me. At that point I found myself back in my body. I was awake but found it very hard to move, like I had no strength at all. I kept trying and with some difficulty I did. I felt really weird for the next half an hour or so.

Even though I don't really believe I will die in a day or something, the whole energy being sucked out of me does have me a bit worried. I've heard of astral leeches and stuff, but does anyone know more about this? I feel like I should take some protection measures, but I don't know what to do. How do I know whether I got away or not?

Thank you and sorry for the long post.

[Xanth]

Why do you figure your first 'neg attack' happened after so many years of positive experiences?
Has anything changed in your life recently? Something that you're viewing in a negative light?

Work on the protective things, but also try to find the root of why this is happening.

[Yang]

I''ve always been sort of unlucky and had misfortune. And I've never had much energy to begin with.
I do find it quite odd that he told me what he would do to me. Maybe if he hadn't I wouldn't have ever known.

[CFTraveler]

Hi, I'm new here.

Hi Yang.

This one felt very different than all the others I've had. I even left my body in a way I usually do not.

Since OBE qualities vary according to the exit (or at least in my experience), I'll just highlight this, just to see if it means anything for later. This may have something with how your interpreted the experience.

I saw my mom sitting on my computer chair. My mind was clear and I decided to do something that's been on my list of things to do, contact my higher self. She turned into a creepy bony old man saying he is it. Suddenly I remembered something I read somewhere to ask if he is from the light and truth, three times in a row to make certain a negative entity is just not messing with me. While the firs yes was a quick one the second one came after some stuttering and took a while. I noticed he was having difficulty saying yes the second time. I didn't need that to convince me he wasn't the real deal. He was creeping me out.

There are a few possibilities here, one of them being a neg. I'll treat it as a neg attack, if you felt drained after.

He finally said something that scared me "I am going to attach myself to you and take away all your energy, you only have one day of it left."

This is a typical reaction of a weak neg. If the neg really had the capability to hurt you physically, he would not announce the intentions. This tells me this was some fairly harmless wildlife that was "fluffing up" for you since you discovered it wasn't who it was trying to hide as.

I went into panic mode and literally screamed for my guardian angels to help me. At that point I found myself back in my body. I was awake but found it very hard to move, like I had no strength at all. I kept trying and with some difficulty I did. I felt really weird for the next half an hour or so.

This points to it being a neg, instead of a self aspect testing you. However, the last thing you said makes me wonder if it is a self aspect after all.

Even though I don't really believe I will die in a day or something, the whole energy being sucked out of me does have me a bit worried. I've heard of astral leeches and stuff, but does anyone know more about this? I feel like I should take some protection measures, but I don't know what to do. How do I know whether I got away or not?

First of all, I think the effect on you was more psychological than anything else- these critters can't really hurt you, they feed on your fear. The chameleon aspect of it and then the threats are clues that the critter was posturing to create the fear it wanted- that the best defense for you is to realize that it cannot do anything but scare you, but it can (and that's how most of them operate) scare you to the point of providing them constant energy. Once you realize there's no reason to be scared and you're not, they go away, because their source of energy is gone.

Salt baths and maybe a water fountain is good for protection, but getting rid of your fear is the most important.

[Yang]

Thank you!
The fear went away pretty soon and if I'd meet him again, I'd be able to laugh in his face.

[UfoAfterlight]

water fountain as protection? i heard Robert Bruce say walking over a stream of water comming from a water hose will help but if that helps wouldnt a shower be even better?..thats streaming water too

BTW YAng you posted this on the Lucid Dream Forum right? i think i have read your story there

[CFTraveler]

water fountain as protection? i heard Robert Bruce say walking over a stream of water comming from a water hose will help but if that helps wouldnt a shower be even better?..thats streaming water too

Yeah but you can't sleep in the shower. At least I can't.

[UfoAfterlight]

water fountain as protection? i heard Robert Bruce say walking over a stream of water comming from a water hose will help but if that helps wouldnt a shower be even better?..thats streaming water too

Yeah but you can't sleep in the shower. At least I can't.

Yeh not something i would recommend either lol

But what i mean is,if stepping over water comming from a water hose gets a neg away then a nice shower should do the same right..right..? yes no yes?

[CFTraveler]

Yes, but what makes a neg annoying is their persistence, their staying power. A garden-variety neg will be easily taken care of with the simplest countermeasures, but these rarely cause damage- we encounter them often and sometimes don't even realize it, unless we overly react to them (and thus feed them).
But if there is something 'more' powerful that takes an interest in you, either because of an initial reaction to something by you (reasons vary) or because someone sends something to you (a programmed thoughtform, or something else) then taking care of them becomes something more long-lasting- the idea is that manifestation becomes too tough for them to justify and eventually they decide it's easier to go somewhere else (or it backfires on the sender). That's where other countermeasures, more active than passive come in.

[abalone]

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