Celebrities

[andyvalery]

Hello

In case you don't know, I'm a lowly musician trying to make it in the business and as much as I want my music to be accepted by as wide an audience as possible, I can't help but fear the ramifications of being a public figure. As with any art, some love it and some will abhor it, to the point where personal hate results.

I think you can guess my question: how do celebrities have it, from a mystic and spiritual standpoint?
Is anyone out there a celebrity? (Admins and Moderators do not qualify )

[Beekeeper]

Celebrities are no different to the rest of us. Their situation is particularly set up for their spiritual progress. Obviously, being creative allows tremendous potential for spiritual growth. Wealth, influence and fame can be distractions or they can actually be tools for progress. Any strength can also be a weakness. Like us, they have the potential to make mistakes, learn from them and become more true to who they really are.

In the After Death Zone the celebrity is no more elevated than anyone else. If they become too attached to their life on earth there is the possibility of becoming earthbound spirits for a period, as with anyone else. Some mediums believe that mass mourning for celebrities may make their transition more difficult.

I'd read recently that much of the creativity of the phenomenally talented is the result of their unconscious channeling of the creativity of spirits that have passed and that influence them beyond the grave. The thing I read (sorry, can't remember where) suggested that upon passing the celebrity will see how little he/she had to do with the originating of their art. Don't know about that one.

[andyvalery]

Hey Beekeeper,

Those last two points are very interesting.
I've often wondered how an emotional connection on a global scale could affect the spirit of the public figure that has passed away, if you have any references on this topic, I'd be very interested to read up on it.

The final point you brought up is particularly interesting, as I once wrote a song upon hearing about the death of a close friend's sister who had formed a thrombus that lodged in her brain while sitting an exam. I heard the news later in the evening and wept. After letting it all out I grabbed a pen and paper and jotted down some lyrics in one sitting and the accompanying music the next day - the song literally wrote itself. I'm still amazed by the words that came through the pen that night.

Hehe, I realise celebrities are just human beings like the rest of us, but I was asking how the life of a celebrity may be affected by subconscious psychic attack specifically, especially with regard to those who are unnecessarily 'hated'.

[ButterflyWoman]

I realise celebrities are just human beings like the rest of us, but I was asking how the life of a celebrity may be affected by subconscious psychic attack specifically, especially with regard to those who are unnecessarily 'hated'.

I think that may well happen. While some people seem naturally less vulnerable to psychic attack, those who are more sensitive to it or more poorly defended (i.e., have poor boundaries in a psychological sense) are probably quite at risk when they're in the public eye. I've seen it happen just on the net, when some person or another becomes too prominent and too well known, they become subject to all manner of negativity and nastiness, including psychic attack. I can only imagine what it would be like if you were so well known that your face is on the cover of magazines and your name is synonymous with a certain kind of public image.

[Palehorse Redivivus]

I've had conversations about this before -- IMO in an ideal world, celebs would be given lessons in maintaining strong personal boundaries at the energetic level. Just being able to extrapolate the issues *I've* had from not having very strong personal boundaries and being overloaded by other peoples "stuff" in the past, without being famous, I can only imagine. I can remember going to some concerts and feeling energetically beaten up afterward before I learned what to do about it for instance -- and I was just a guy in the crowd; I'd imagine having that projected straight at you every single night could get pretty intense, especially if one was sensitive. I've also thought that things could get especially problematic for child stars, who start out without much of a sense of their own personal space, and may never learn how to establish it. I think superstardom could be done in a comfortable and healthy way, but lots of grounding and filtering would be crucial, unless one is somehow naturally super shielded and grounded.

This could explain a lot about why celebs seem disproportionately likely to go a bit nuts, IMO. If I were some of them, I'd probably be a bit nuts too, heh. Well... moreso anyway.

[ButterflyWoman]

This could explain a lot about why celebs seem disproportionately likely to go a bit nuts, IMO.

*nod* Exactly.

[Beekeeper]

Andy, I think you'd like this
There may have been something in one of Victor Zammit's recent reports: http://www.victorzammit.com/archives/index.html
If I find any links, I'll post them.

[Timotheus]

[watrinh]

I'd read recently that much of the creativity of the phenomenally talented is the result of their unconscious channeling of the creativity of spirits that have passed and that influence them beyond the grave. The thing I read (sorry, can't remember where) suggested that upon passing the celebrity will see how little he/she had to do with the originating of their art. Don't know about that one.

I always believed that the origin of the creativity was actually channeled down to our 3rd dimensional minds in the form of different rays of light and love forces. I remember from somewhere that there are spiritual beings (not sure if they're dead people or actual higher beings) that actually channel the energies to the collective unconscious of humans. We as humans, when we try to create something, actually pick up on these energies and help it to manifest into our reality. Music is one of these manifestations.

I also learned somewhere that a majority of the conscious humans use is not actually our own, but it is of the physical body by itself. The thoughts that are generated by the body itself is based on the different cycles of the solar system, which essentially are our gates of consciousness. Essentially, they're not thoughts, but subtle energies at different cycles that registers in our minds as thoughts.

[Beekeeper]

And so it may be, Watrinh. So much of what we accept as true is what we accepted through our cultural conditioning but we don't really know for certain from whence ideas and creativity comes. I'm just glad that there is so much the human being is capable of creating that brings such joy to the senses and elevates the spirit or challenges and extends belief.