psy attack! x.O

[endo]

;]WHAT?

[CFTraveler]

Dear endo:
I moved your post to the Self Defense forum, because it's not addressed to Robert.

[endo]

ok as long as somebody gon awnser to this it's ok ;] coz i been flipping my wig out with this stuff and i'm curious if somebodys familiar or even near this type of i dont know what thanks

[CFTraveler]

I couldn't finish reading your post. The only thing I can tell you, is that you need to stop doing drugs. And read the countermeasures section of this forum. Which are:
Water Crossing method
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=13781&p=104554&hilit=water+cr ossing#p104554

Salt Baths- viewtopic.php?f=21&t=13251&p=100274&hilit=Salt+Bat hs#p100274

Shielding- viewtopic.php?f=21&t=2479&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=shi elding

Cord cutting- viewtopic.php?t=3559

[endo]

i didn't smoke for the past 2months

[Waneta]

i didn't smoke for the past 2months

It's good that you stopped doing that, but when this first happened and you were disoriented from alcohol and the drug use, you were probably much more vulnerable to negs and it could be they took the opportunity to latch onto you. So I agree that you should try the methods mentioned above, and continue to stay away from drugs, as this will only help.

One post mentioned water fountains being good neg discouragement as well, so maybe if you have one or can get one and keep it near your bed when you sleep, on of course, that may help. I have not had a neg problem personally but have heard of a few and read around the forums.

[Seeuzin]

It's good that you stopped doing that, but when this first happened and you were disoriented from alcohol and the drug use, you were probably much more vulnerable to negs and it could be they took the opportunity to latch onto you.

Agreed....using any kind of mind-altering substance can create holes in your defenses, and these holes don't necessarily go away quickly after abstaining. To boot, sometimes the weak spots in your defenses were there prior to your having any kind of experience with drugs, and were then exacerbated by using them. In these cases the problem may be eased by abstaining, but further work is needed to entirely eliminate them.

I don't know your reasons for using drugs, but I would caution against utilizing them for spiritual advancement (well, and in general.) In cultures that use mind-altering substances for development purposes, they generally have spiritual specialists/shamans whose job it is to guide the person through the experience safely, and ensure that nothing untoward happens, physically or on the spiritual level...additionally, in these cultures, at least as far as I know, there is often a great deal of respect for the plant used, and that simply does not exist in the same way in most places in the West. In short, in order to use drugs for spiritual development, you have to have an entire infrastructure literally built-in to society to facilitate this. And even in places where you do have that, using psychoactive substances is NOT for everyone. Some people simply aren't suited for it. I'd actually wager that if you were to take a sample from the people in Western societies who use drugs, and a sample from the people there who don't, and compare them, you'd probably find more of the type of personality that isn't suited for that kind of experience (even given the right societal conditions) in the former sample.

[endo]

i just like to lay back and smoke some ... but i'm familiar with the use using spiritual developtment and i have to agree on that drugs are not for eveyone and you need a guide it's just that i was in the wrong state at the wrong time and it's kinda slowly eating me ... but then again i'm still on my feet

[CFTraveler]

Have you tried any of the countermeasures I linked you to in an earlier post?