And How we deflected the spam.

[Dragon's Daughter]

Yep, Dumbledore is dead - actually makes sense, Harry's always used him as his saviour when things got really bad - he's always known that he could go to Dumbledore. Dumbledore had to die so that Harry will come into his own.

Not that I like it but it makes sense for the storyline. I'm just not sure if all 3 of the main characters will survive the last book. I'll read it anyway.

I have to avoid all my posts referencing the Matrix. Talk about a movie that knows what it's talking about!!!

DD

[Jonathan2525]

Hello all and Beekeeper,

Beekeeper wrote:
Anyway, semantics: I don't think the definition of noble as used in the saying is limited to the station of "nobility" as such. Rather, it's a quality that can be possessed by anyone. Inherent to the quality, as opposed to the mere title, is humility.

You’re right of course, I was thinking in term of title of nobility.

On a different note, DD wrote:

Yep, Dumbledore is dead - actually makes sense, Harry's always used him as his saviour when things got really bad - he's always known that he could go to Dumbledore. Dumbledore had to die so that Harry will come into his own.

I sadly concur. I was in denial when I read it. I kept going back to the story to see if there was any indication that Dumbledore might not actually be dead, but having the body and all seemed fairly conclusive.

I really want to see how the saga ends. Harry isn’t even remotely a match for Voldemort and without Dumbledore to teach him I don’t know how he’s going to manage defeating him. I do think that Snape is on Harry’s side, I mean with all those death-eaters standing around there wasn’t really much he could do. He obviously finished-up Dumbledore to spare Draco the dilemma. I think it’s going to come down to Harry facing Voldy one-on-one and Snape helping him in the very last second.

Who’s R.A.B, the one who stole the horcrux? From the line in the note, “I will be dead long before you read this”, seems to imply someone who has been dead for a while. Dumbledore didn’t know about it, otherwise he would not have risked his life for it. I don’t think it was someone in the Order. So who was it?????????

As for Snape, well I don’t think his real story is much of a mystery at all. I think he was in love with Harry’s mother. Remember how Voldy told her to step aside, that she didn’t need to die. Why would the dark lord do that, was he getting soft? I think Snape passed him inside info with the condition that he wouldn’t kill her. He definitely wanted James out of the way though. Snape was manipulating the situation to eliminate James without facing him directly. I think that’s why he got so insulted when in Harry yelled out to him calling him a coward. But Voldy did kill Lily, and Snape switched sides. This has been my pet theory ever since the pensive incident in which Snape was hung in the air using the Levicorpus spell.

Aaahhh, so many possibilities and I know JKR will choose the less likely one.

I think I better stop here before I get banned

Sincerely, Jonathan H

[Beekeeper]

You put the smile on the face of the English teacher, Johnathon.

[CFTraveler]

really want to see how the saga ends. Harry isn’t even remotely a match for Voldemort and without Dumbledore to teach him I don’t know how he’s going to manage defeating him. I do think that Snape is on Harry’s side, I mean with all those death-eaters standing around there wasn’t really much he could do. He obviously finished-up Dumbledore to spare Draco the dilemma. I think it’s going to come down to Harry facing Voldy one-on-one and Snape helping him in the very last second.

Who’s R.A.B, the one who stole the horcrux? From the line in the note, “I will be dead long before you read this”, seems to imply someone who has been dead for a while. Dumbledore didn’t know about it, otherwise he would not have risked his life for it. I don’t think it was someone in the Order. So who was it?????????

As for Snape, well I don’t think his real story is much of a mystery at all. I think he was in love with Harry’s mother. Remember how Voldy told her to step aside, that she didn’t need to die. Why would the dark lord do that, was he getting soft? I think Snape passed him inside info with the condition that he wouldn’t kill her. He definitely wanted James out of the way though. Snape was manipulating the situation to eliminate James without facing him directly. I think that’s why he got so insulted when in Harry yelled out to him calling him a coward. But Voldy did kill Lily, and Snape switched sides. This has been my pet theory ever since the pensive incident in which Snape was hung in the air using the Levicorpus spell.

I just thought there was a moment when Dumbledore told Draco 'I have a way to make people think you're dead' before Snape stepped in- it almost seemed to me he was buying time until Snape came in and 'fake' killed him instead of 'really' killing him. I do agree that Snape switched sides, and that is the reason he didn't kill Harry when he had the chance (when he ran after him and Snape kind of told him to go away before he got it.) I just thought that maybe Dumbledore never destroyed the Sorcerer's Stone... :cry: . Why would you get banned? I was the one who hijacked this original post, which reads like spam to me.

[Jonathan2525]

I just thought there was a moment when Dumbledore told Draco 'I have a way to make people think you're dead' before Snape stepped in- it almost seemed to me he was buying time until Snape came in and 'fake' killed him instead of 'really' killing him.

Where did he say this? I can't seem to find it in "the lightning struck tower".

[CFTraveler]

It is in the Lightning Struck Tower,pg. 591:"He cannot kill you if you're already dead. Come over to the right side....Nobody would be surprised that you had died in your attempt to kill me- forgive me, but Lord Voldemort probably expects it." And so on. Now, this struck me funny because before he keeps telling him to 'get it over with', but now all of a sudden it sounds like he's begging for his life, something very un-Dumbledoreish- so I figure it was some sort of clue for the reader. Of course it could be my wishful thinking, but, maybe D. had some kind of 'positive horcrux of his own', or some pre-hatched plan with Snape.

Anyway, Lord Moldybutt can't win!

[Jonathan2525]

Hello all,

What about Snape making an unbreakable vow? He vowed to help Draco if he failed in his attempt.

"And, should it prove necessary… if it seems Draco will fail..." whispered
Narcissa (Snape's hand twitched within hers, but he did not draw away), "will you carry out the deed that the Dark Lord has ordered Draco to perform?"

“There was a moment's silence. Bellatrix watched, her wand upon their clasped hands, her eyes wide. "I will," said Snape.”

He had to help Draco finish-off Dumbly, if he hadn’t he’d be dead. If Dumbledore faked his death, he must have done it without Snape’s help.

Sincerely, Jonathan H

[Beekeeper]

I'm the Beekeeper's son writing right now. And for jonathen who asked who is R.A.B. I think it is Regulus. A. Black, Sirius' brother. and i also think that the unopenable locket in the black house when they were cleaning up in book five, was Slytheryn"s locket a.k.a. a horucux

[Beekeeper]

Jonathan 2525 wrote [Who’s R.A.B, the one who stole the horcrux? From the line in the note, “I will be dead long before you read this”, seems to imply someone who has been dead for a while. Dumbledore didn’t know about it, otherwise he would not have risked his life for it. I don’t think it was someone in the Order. So who was it????????? ]

R.A.B is Regulus Black. If you reread the books you will see all the clues J.K's given us and you'll see. Regulus must have turned on Voldemort and that's why he was murdered so quickly, and I think the green potion that Dumbledoor had to drink was showing Dumbledoor the pain that Regulus had to go through to get the horocux.

[Jonathan2525]

Hello all and Beekeeper’s son,

In the order of the Phoenix Sirius' brother is spoken of as Regulus Black, not as Regulus A. Black. Sirius also mentions that he was killed because he started to back out. I will have to reread yet again the whole series from the beginning to see if I can find some clue as to who RAB is. Of course that probably will not help; remember all the fuzz about Mark Evans being the Half-Blood prince? I think no one expected it to be Snape.

Sincerely, Jonathan H