The new society thread

[Antares]

There were many "hippie movements" before in history, stressing liberty and nature and free spirituality

I would say there were many, many revolutions in the history, but each was unique, as there are LOTS to change / transform in the society, politics, mentality, economy, art, education etc. In the sense the hippie movement seems to be unique. Therefore I wouldn't treat all of them in the same way.

I think that is one perception- society is a mix of people, but I do believe, as a whole, there is progress

I think this is exactly the key point!

The society is a mix.

And it's not good: the minorities - minorities in whatever sense, including the viewpoints or choices - suffer.

I believe that this is the key: it's a mix of a wide variety, yet treated as a single mass without variety. The differences are not respected, but they should. It's not just male-female division (which recently also seems to be belittled); people differ a lot also in terms of mentality, interests, a level of development (in whatever sense), approach to ecology, approach to medicine, work, money, free time, food etc. This is where "mass democracy" today seems to fail, ignoring this diversity.

not a Product of a night out partying and so on....

Interesting point So this is exactly how things are now. Children are products. In fact, everyone seems like a product. I hold nothing against make-ups or anything, but it seems that people "must" be attractive products, then making new "products" (children), which are raised with the same mentality in mind.

it was a very healthy era...to show more freedom and freedom does create more ideas...go back more to organic living without the poisoning of the agricuture and so on.....yes there is so much to say and what has to be changed for us to get healthy World on all aspects and levels of mind. But still I Believe that too much drugs is never good it will destroy the brain….I was Young on the -70...I did see much what drugs did do to my friends and many died too Young.

I cannot agree more with that. And lots of my friends also died because of drugs, too.

Have you heard about the ancient Chinese I-Cing book?

Most of people in the western world see it as an oracle, which is the most popular application of the 64 hexagrams (symbolizing the concept of the universe "condition" at a particular moment) of which descriptions the book consists.

The less popular viewpoint is that it's the taoist (especially) and the confucianist treatment on the universe in general, and in particular the alchemical tranformations and achievements.

The I-Cing has infinite applications, one of which is medicine. The other might be the society. I'm not a "vivid user" of the I-Cing, yet I know how powerful it is. Possibly, the wisdom inherent in this book could be a framework for the social transformations - not as an oracle, but rather as the guidelines, which are the main points of the hexagrams descriptions.

In this sense, the society is a "unit" like anything else, and the Chinese (and others) alchemy teaches about splitting and merging "things", being the basis of reasonable transformations.