Hi CFTraveler,

I saw in a different thread that you have experience with PMR (Progressive Muscle Relaxation)
Hope you don't mind I ask a question about it, although it may not in a appropriate thread.
Today, while watching some pod casts I thought let me take advantage of the time and do a PMR.
When I was done and remained laying still, I noticed that I began to feel energy running through my body. This is the same energy what I would feel if I listen to Hemi-sync's Journey Out of Body.
I.e it's probably trance-energy, I remember Bruce discussed it in the books: Mastering Astral Projection and Astral Dynamics.

In Astral Dynamics Bruce wrote the following about PMR:
"Allow your muscles to sink and droop and totally relax after tensing. In the early stages of relaxation training, I suggest that this system be practiced repeatedly, until a whole-body feeling of cozy warm heaviness is achieved. Near enough is not good enough when it comes to deep physical relaxation for OBE."

Would you say based on your extensive experience with this practice, when a person will begin to feel trance-energy after done the PMR. That, that person reached a deep enough physical relaxation? That he or she can move on to the next chapter of the book. And start training his or her mind with the mental focus exercises? I assume I can already begin to work with those mental exercises. But what I try to find out, if the feeling of the trance-energy is a indication of the stage of "whole-body feeling of cozy warm heaviness"

I probably should continue doing PMR's daily for a few months, to reach that stage that Bruce described. Because right now when I finished a PMR exercise, I feel that I'm more relaxed then before I did such a exercise. I also experience different sensations in my body, other than the energy I described earlier. But to say that my body feels warm and heavy, that I do not know.
Would you say that the cozy warm heaviness is very distinctive and can not be missed?
Are there other phenomena that can occur?

A while ago you gave me the recommendation to read the thread " your first conscious projection" it was stickied in the OBE portion of this forum. But right now as I type this message. I tried to find it but I did not managed to do so. I looked in the OBE as well as the OBE Research and Discussions, and I used to search function. Is the name of that thread changed? Could you tell me how I can find it or share a link to that thread please?