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    My current struggles - Money? unfortunately in order for me to have the proper time I want to study and test magic I need to have enough money to make more productive time for this, I have noticed a significant improvement ever since I have started incorporating black magic along side with manual energetic techniques, real soon money won't be a problem.
    IMO people who are focused on esoteric topics often struggle with the financial, or material, side of the reality - and this is not, as typically believed, because of these goals (esoteric vs. financial) being opposite to each other. I.e. some people in esoterics consider themselves to be spiritual, and money to be unspiritual. This is not true - none of these two has much to do with spirituality, i.e. esoterics is not spirituality, these are two different things. I would risk a statement that even churches or modern religions have not much to do with spirituality, if anything.

    The reason for financial problems is generally that the approach to finances in our reality requires a certain mindset, and approach to esoterics approach requires another mindset. These are two different, but not necessrily opposite, mindsets. Interests in esoterics is related to research and open mind sort of approach. It is very different from approach to finances: you need to be very strategic and refer to a certain set of facts, related to the market, i.e. have a "market" mindset - and this requires solely using logical part of your mind. I'm sorry to say it, but I really do not believe people who consider themselves spiritual, one of most famous being Joe Vitale (no offense), who believe in affirmations and other garbage of that sort Also, magic IMO will not help anyone much in the physical reality in the financial sense (or, to be more general, where planning is required); I have heard some reknown mages who considered creating a banknotes of 100$ (i.e. manifesting the thing physically) as magic. Magic also - in my current understanding - does not work this way; I know about no person who got rich purely because of the magical activity - IMO because true magic never guarantee anything, it is an indirect influence on the non-physical parts of the reality, and if you want to influence it directly, you have to use sort of kinetic skills, like creating a golden items from nothing. The best way to get money if to use magic is to influence the reality in the way which triggers "opportunities", but still you have to later get out and seek out these. IMO the financial side of our world does not work in a sense of affirmations or their magical equivalents, in opposite to what many esoteric or "financially esoteric" handbooks suggest. To be successful in any field you need to apply to its rules, i.e. in the financial subset of the "reality" you need planning, determining your goals, translating your intentions into well perfomed actions, constantly check the market response (market-related subset of our social reality) and understand what is "selling" in possibly universal sense, or at least has enough experience to have any conclusions. Practical psychology of selling is really helpful - understanding people why they are bying vs. what they are thinking why. So in brief market approach is like a strategic game: with a certain set of rules and strictly related elements - but the difference to any game is that you don't know about these facts, rules and inner relations upfront and you have to discover them yourself. From my observations, this is how you overcome financial issues: by being strategic. As you can see, this is very different than any esoterics subject, which is more volatile, while the "world" of market / finances is hard as a rock. Most of people, not being involved in esoterics at all, have also NO market mindset (but also most of the population also has no esoterics mindset, spiritual mindset etc.). Believe it or not, we live in a sort of socialism where people go to work which awaits them, they don't have to do much beyond what they are told to do - they do not have to think much (or at all) about the market, with some few exceptions for sales people and marketers, but even these - when leaving a company they work for - have big trouble in finding themselves alone, without help of a big organization. So in big part it is socialism, not capitalism which requires more independence, i.e. not depending on the system.
    Last edited by Antares; 15th May 2022 at 06:26 PM.

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