Quote Originally Posted by Sh@dow View Post
It seems this thread became the last bastion of this forum.
Sort of it seems so I tried to start few threads quite recently, but it seems that an interest of people is not that high.

Quote Originally Posted by Sh@dow View Post
One upon a time I was also fond of my dreams, but it seems the passion is gone now. Especially after I realized that a big chunk of our dream's are being manipulated by entities with their own agenda, only a little part is coming from our subconsciousness as an encrypted messages. Also there is a chunk of dreams* that are on par with the dream* we are having right now, I don't know if everyone is having those though.(i can expand on this later on)
Great to hear that there is someone who got into the next level in understanding the dreams, and didn't get lost in bare interpretations and assumptions about them.

Yes, the very question is - as Robert Bruce actually wrote in his book - "my question is: Who is the dreamer".

(I discovered that we are not our dreamers for most of the time - in opposite to the common assumptions about the dreams and the dreamer).

Researching the topic, I also recognized that the subconsciousness ("us" but at the same time not quite entirely "us") is not what we think... now I think of it more as a tool, not part of ourselves. Tool for the entities, not unlike the ones that you mention, to manipulate (interact with) unaware people.

They - the entities - manage the consciousness. They are good and trained at it. The SUBconsciousness is a tool to influence the consciousness (yourself). This is what I learnt, and this is essential to understanding the dreams.

People think that the dreams are an effect of the working of the subconsciousness. IMO they are pretty much right. What they overlook is understanding subconsciosuness itself (and if you don't understand the source of dreams, the effect - dreams themselves - become blur, not clear). Subsconsiousness is a sort of device that allows for interaction. Entities use it all the time for manipulation, as you suggested. The very essence of yourself is not subconsciosuness , but the consciousness. When you are unsconscious, this leaves the room for everything else to replace this emptiness almost instantly, and fulfill it with the external influence - and we used call it "subconscious thoughts". I started to call it "external influence with the internal hooks" - hooks are hooked into yourself and create a "feeling", the feeling is what we tend to call a subconscious influence. Therefore the subconsciosuness is like a "black box" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_box "a black box is a system which can be viewed in terms of its inputs and outputs, without any knowledge of its internal workings"), we have no idea what is behind it... so I suggest researching the subject

I leave explaining of the superconsciousness for later.