Re: Root of all Evil?

Originally Posted by
Chris_com28
you shouldn't indoctrinate children
Well, I don't know how to avoid that. If parents have strongly held religious beliefs, how do you AVOID teaching it to your children? When they ask you, "Why do we go to church?" or "Why do we pray to Mecca?" or "Why do we give Ganesha offerings of milk?" you just clam up? Or you say, "Because mummy and daddy are totally delusional," or what?
My husband and his brothers all went to Lutheran School, and yet not one of them became a Lutheran... (My husband is a Theistic Rationalist, and his brothers are some combination of that and maybe a bit of agnosticism.)
So what is "indoctrination", anyway?

Originally Posted by
Chris_com28
use religion as an excuse for murder
Or as an excuse for any other kind of anti-social behaviour. 

Originally Posted by
Chris_com28
base morality souly (pun intended

) on a divine being
Given the nature of divine beings and our tendency to create them in our own image, and the fact that our own image is hot and cold and evil and good and all things contradictory, no.

Originally Posted by
Chris_com28
and then went ahead bashing (in my opinion a lot of them were) crazy people.
Well, fringe lunatics are fringe lunatics. You can find them in every area of interest and every field of human endeavor. This is something that Richard Dawkins (and his incredibly irritating fanboyz) just doesn't seem to understand, as far as I can tell. YES, there are religious nutjobs. And there are political ones, too, should we outlaw politics? Oh, and what about the academic nutjobs, should we do away with academia? (No, better not; Richard wouldn't have a job.)

Originally Posted by
Chris_com28
In my opinion the documentary wasn't scientific in any way, which is funny as he's supposed to be a highly intelligent scientist. It was more like an exploration of his opinions so we can all pat him on the back for not being a religious nut.
It was one big long rant, with cherry picked "evidence".

Originally Posted by
Chris_com28
There's also the fact that people do evil outside of religion that he never mentioned.
Exactly.

Originally Posted by
Chris_com28
I'll even go as far as saying you could make a similar documentary about atheism if you look at things selectively.
Of course you could. And you could make a similar one about politics. And about celebrity gossip/fandom. You could about most things, really. Just look for the nutjobs on the fringe, hold them up as examples of what the ideology you're trying to dis does to people, and voila! Instant rantumentary!
(I don't know if that word has been coined previously, but I like it, and I hereby claim it if nobody has done so previously.)
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