carsten888's MAP Journal

**carsten888** · 8th June 2010, 06:34 PM

day 31 (althou I have been doing this program now for a year, with breaks).

How to breath during trance?
In the preparation is deep breathing with sound (darth vader style). It doesn't say anywhere if this should be continuud during trance, so I assume not, althou it does seem to keep me a bit more awake.

**carsten888** · 8th June 2010, 06:36 PM

It says somewhere that when your mind starts wondering (feels like dreaming to me) bring focus back to the body, so I then focus on breathing again. But frankly:

what to do during trance?

When I get in a trance (falling sensation of landing airplane works best for me) what to focus on then? I tried the 15 minutes getting deeper, sometimes that works a little, but for now there seems to be a 'bottom' to the depth of trance, and I read there is no need for a really deep trance, so I'm there and wondering how to stay there as my mind can blink out (which I read is ok) but also I see dreamlike images (hypnagonic imagery). Do I just let that happen and risk falling asleep? Or refocus on breathing or so?

what to focus on during trance?

**CFTraveler** · 8th June 2010, 08:55 PM

I focus on whatever is in front of me- if it's blackness I try to make it deeper; if it's hypnagogics, I know I'm close. If they are going by fast I know I need a little more time- that's when energy body loosening methods are helpful. If I don't have them, I listen to the earhiss, and go from there.

**CFTraveler** · 8th June 2010, 08:58 PM

During trance practice breathing should be normal, but it's not a 'rule'- sometimes deep breathing can be used to get more focus and less chatter (one more thing to pay attention to)- but it's not compulsory. Do what helps you. I find that during trance I like to make things 'soft'- so instead of deep breathing I sort of do it with a lot of gentleness. But that's me.

**carsten888** · 9th June 2010, 05:33 AM

what do you do when you get hypnagogics (HI)? refocus?

**carsten888** · 9th June 2010, 05:34 AM

thanks for sharing.

**CFTraveler** · 9th June 2010, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by carsten888

what do you do when you get hypnagogics (HI)? refocus?

No, I use them to help me out.

**carsten888** · 9th June 2010, 01:34 PM

nice.

**carsten888** · 16th June 2010, 09:37 AM

In the OBE walkthrough you got to scream 'with emotion' on re-entry. I am puzzled on how to scream emotional. Example 'the airplanes are not there', how to scream with emotion?

Anyone got any tips?

**carsten888** · 16th June 2010, 09:47 AM

At the body loosening, should I be in the sitting-trance position (no headrest) or already in the ready-for-takeoff position? (with headrest/recliner/propped up with pillows etc.). I'm have been re-reading that part in the book at week 6, but don't really understand what is meant there.