Re: energy, prana, chi, vital energy
Originally Posted by
workinprogress
In yoga you feel prana and can increase prana through pranayama (breathing exercises) as well as the asanas. But to my knowledge, there isn't a conscientous thought/will to store energy within the body. You can observe/feel energy flow and sometimes direct it, but I don't know of any emphasis on willfully accumulating it.
Other forms of Yoga are drastically different than the basic Hatha Yoga ;
I have learned Kriya Yoga from spirit teachers to store , direct and manifest energy .I also did a quick google for you using keywords yoga+storing + energy ;
Preksha Yoga For Common Ailments - Yoga and Health Hatha yoga teaches us how to utilize, store and promote free flow of life ... This may lead to loss of body's stored energy and thereafter-physical weakness. ...
http://www.indiangyan.com/books/ yogabooks/preksha_yoga/index.shtml
Sahaja Yoga in SacramentoBy this yoga, you can control the activity of the sympathetic, ie you can use more energy that is stored or else completely stop the activity of this ...
http://www.geocities.com/sacramentoyoga/page2.html
Kundalini Yoga - Fundamental ComponentsApana is the elimating energy stored in the lower chakras. ... Kundalini Yoga kriyas are centuries old. The total effect of a kriya is greater than the sum ...
http://www.kundaliniyoga.org/basic.html - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
In Tai Chi and QiGong the movements and breathing also increase your chi, but again, to my knowledge, the process is naturally occuring. I have yet to be told to image or will chi to the dan tien (or tan tien as it is also spelled).
Tan tiens are areas around the chakral column that are used to store energy . The Dan Tien is a specific Tan Tien , it is the area over the yellow solar plexus and green heart chakras . The other two tan tiens we are born with are the red male tan tien over the orange and red chakras and the blue female tan tien over the violet , indigo and blue chakras . As a Hermetic Magician I do bring energy up into the tan tiens and also down from the crowns into them for a number of practices . Here is an advanced practice ;
http://home.xtra.co.nz/hosts/Wingmak...ra%20Line.html
Instead the sheer practice is supposed to do this naturally. Although in advanced practices you do work with moving energy, but I haven't read about focusing on storing it anywhere.
The male tan tien manifests an alchemical structure called a throne from which innumerable nadis bloom .
In hermetics, you learn pore breathing and how to accumulate vital energy. While you can store this vital energy for specific purposes, it must be expelled fairly soon. The premise is that accumulating vital energy strains the energy body and is like pumping a bike tire beyond the recommend pressure. Sooner or later it is bound to explode. So you practice accumulating and holding the vital energy to increase the ability of your energy body to hold more energy for longer periods. But again, it is specifically stated not to store it.
I have completed the Ten Step Path of the Magician and I recall reading about storing up energy . I also learned from spirit teachers about energy and from Robert Bruce of course . The point here being I believe the deep cleansing , powering up , releasing and storing of energy are fundamental to Hermetic Magick . Here are a few links ;
Astral Healer :: Self-ImprovementHermetic magic has a system developed by Franz Bardon and taught in Initiation ... There are a great many ways to store energy and use energy that doesn't ...
astralhealer.com/selfimprove.php - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
FRANZ BARDON BOOKS hermetic magic initiation into hermetics ...Books by Franz Bardon, Hermetic Magic, Books by Jakob Lorber, Hermetic Science, ... The Practice of Accumulation of Vital Energy. Addendum to Step III ...www.merkurpublishing.com/franz_ bardon_hermetics_evocation_kabbalah.htm - 80k - Cached - Similar pages
Then there is NEW in which using tactile and some visualization you accumulate energy and store it in the sub-navel area. With enough practice, this too becomes natural and the body will automatically begin accumulating energy with little thought/effort on your part.
I feel that the adept will always want to work on their energy body as long as they live and perhaps beyond death . It is not enough to allow the spontaneous energy flow or to expect that it will function as autonomic reflex does . Stale prana and toxins must be deep cleansed to avoid disease and depression .The prefected energy body kept in the best condition is an asset which expands all of our clarient abilities and expands our consciousness and general well being emotionally and physically . Areas of neglect are apparent even on practiced magicians . For example in energy body readings , it is apparent that many neglect their feet and brow centre and that hands are areas of intentional focus .
First question:
Are each of these energy names the same energy (Chi, Prana, Energy, Vital Energy) or are each a different type of energy?
They are the same but prana often refers to breath energy . Chi and psi are the same . But vital energy is a loose new age term referring to the latin base vitae or life so meaning life sustaining energy sometimes and others meaning energy boosts that come from diet and exercise as this 'vitamin will increase your vital energy '.
Second:If they are the same type of energy, why does one specify its dangerous to store it, others say not to force it but grow it naturally and a fourth advocates consciously storing it? To me these sound like conflicting practices/procedures. But if the energies are all diffferent, then that would go part way to explaining the differing thoughts on energy raising/development.
There are many different methods under the sun. I suggest going straight to the source and learning as a mystic and learning from Robert Bruce . He is an expert on the human energy body .
Has anyone else experienced the difference between energy as used in NEW and vital energy as practiced in hermetics? If not, has anyone else noticed they can raise/pull energy from their whole bodies and not just feet and hands? If so, have you 'played' with this at all?
Yes , the heart pumps energy .
Influent and Effluent
palms of hand
instep of feet
perineum
crown
Influent
heart
brow centre/ third eye
nose
ears
Effluent
rear of heart
rear of brow
heel of the foot purges out .
etc.
Energy can be stored by pulling it up the body through the legs
and wrapping it into a variety of methods ie sarcophagus , cobra , butterfly pranic knots and raising energy using yogic bandhas.
NEW is excellent "play" with energy and the methods aslo "work" to develop the energy body quickly . I advocate utilising a variety of methods .
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