Quote Originally Posted by sleeper
I think that the nameless is our way of acknowledging that our language is inadequate for describing anything complete in it's wholeness. our language, as you know, can break ideas into infinitesimally small pieces, but it can not put them back together, it can not describe wholeness.

So everything complete in it's wholeness is also nameless. for now...
i like that.

yet, with all the water dispersed around the earth, we can see the oceans connective of Ocean, and we've only begun to investigate this body of water as something other than an obstacle requiring a crossing. i read a few days ago a headline that said, "we know more about the moon than we know about the Ocean.

in an odd way, i think this unknowing of our Ocean is synonymous with our unknowing of Spirit, despite all the philosophy/religious oral/written 'language' given toward it.

i wonder have we sought religion as the compromise with Spirit as obstacle, much like our relationship has been with the Ocean. I see simularitys in these two relative to man.

personally, i think that neanderthal man was one with spirit. that native american, aboriginal australian....etc, all these were one with spirit, and that when met by religion, like spirit as obstacle, were in the way.

just my general thoughts...

tim