So, you're suggesting that to affect the physical one has to have a more developed energy body, or the living person's consciousness/subconscious must agree to produce the effects, or a living person has to be in a similar state as the shade, like an alcoholic or constant worrier. Interesting. I'll have to get this book by Kurt Leland. I keep hearing him mentioned. Anybody read "Projections of the Consciousness" by Waldo Vieira? That's next on my reading list.