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Thread: Everything perceived in the OBE is projection or not

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    Re: Everything perceived in the OBE is projection or not

    There is a certain, not often raised, preassumption that LD and OBE are two very different things. IMO they are very similar. The reason why LD is treated as a separate experience is the fact that it is perceived as a more tangible version of imagination - and imagination is usually related to the visual sense; LD covers more senses, and hence is treated as tangible, which is the main difference between them.

    However, in LD (but also ESP) you can perceive things from what you would indicate as the reality, and in OBE - you can face 'your own' (are they yours?) projections.

    But I would treat the LD, clairvoyance, ESP and OBE as very close experiences - much closer than it is usually thought. The thing is that the degree to which your own projections interfere with what you treat as 'the reality' is blurred and not as clear as black-or-white.

    As it is already known, the material reality is not rigid - it's the manifestation, or in other words, simulation - and the physical senses have been designed for the human being thousands years ago to present him or her it as such. Energy flows through every single material objects all the time, but our physical senses simply overlook this essential fact - essential for understanding the true nature of the reality, which is energy (matter is a manifstation therefore).

    Actually, Robert Bruce suggested this, but I'd like to make it clear here: one can make OBE to be the LD experience, and vice versa. And this raises a number of questions: what is the reality then, what we are expriencing, are we the co-creators of the reality through our projections, are our projections filters through which we perceive the reality, are filters part of the reality, is astral projection 'just' a projection, and so on. These questions actually partly explain what is essentially magic.

    In the center of these questions is the idea of projection: what it is, actually?
    Last edited by Antares; 3rd July 2022 at 09:02 AM.

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